Little me and a coin.

[Pona]

Hello people, Just registered to say hi and more importantly get your opinions on a coin a friend of mine has aquired...

A bit about me....
Been detecting since 1994 and still love it just as much as the day I started. Detect mainly in Oxfordshire, Worcestershire, and the Cotswolds. oldest find to date would be a Celtic Dobunni stater minted around 50BC....In my childrens eyes only about 100 years before I was born :( Probably the easiest way for you to get a an idea of me would be to list the the thing in America that i would most like to see....(in no specific order)....
1. The old Zephyr skate board shop. Venice beach.
2. The corkscrew at Laguna Seca.
3. Gettysburg National park.
4. Dealey Plaza.
5. The Motown museum in Detroit.
6. Del Mar skate park..although I hear its no longer there??
7. That mountain type thing from Close Encounters in Wyoming *updated to include getting there on a Harley*
8. Anywhere that looks like the scenery in various old cowboy films.
9. The Bonnevile salt flats.
10. A Rattle Snake by one of those big cactus things.
11. A rolling tumble weed in the desert....which brings me to my next question..where do the tumble weeds end up?? is there a massive wall somewhere in the middle of the USA where they all collect?

Now..the coin in question and my reason for being here...a friend of mine works for an auctioneers and was given a box containing coins from one of his clients. Among these was this one....I know what its suppose to be but my question is, Is it fake or real:huh: Thats where you come in, I have not seen the coin first hand, so am unable to say what the edges look like. sorry :(

oh and before you ask....
1. No I have never met the Queen.
2. Yes i have electricity.
3. No I dont live in a Castle or house with a thatched roof (sadl
y)
4. No i dont throw waste out of upstairs windows and yes I have a toilet (indoors)
5. Yes there is a U in colour
6. I like my eggs boiled and have no idea what sunny side up means
:grin: lol

Thanks for reading and thanks in advance for your replys.

Jon.

[del]

lol lol lol you have a great sense of humor Jon , welcome to the forum. the schilling looks to be in pretty nice shape , an oak-tree type . give me a couple of hours and i can get home to look up the variety and if its real.

Dan

[Pona]

Thank you Dan, :) Thank you for the quick reply. I look forward to reading your findings :)

[del]

Jon , the variety type is called a Noe-1 , it looks good or real to me but i can't confirm it as real not seeing it in person . heres a picture of the same variety as yours . a coin like this will start out at 750 U.S. dollars in G-4 condition and can be worth up to 30,000 dollars in MS-60. hope this helps some .

Dan

[Pona]

Thanks again Dan, youre a Star.

I've never seen one of these coins before..I love the style/detail etc I'm now thinking of telling him its fake just so I can add it to my collection :drool: I reckon the price of 2 pints of beer should more than cover it thumbsup01

As I've said previous, thanks for the prompt response .

Jon.

If anyone else has any views/thoughts on this coin i would be very gratefull to hear from you.

[chief5709]

Jon, Welcome to the forum!

Nice intro! I have only visited one spot on your list.. Gettysburg |:cheering:

[Pona]

Thank you chief :) You've visited one more than me then mate :cheesysmile:

[Fire Fighter 43]

Welcome to the forum from Wisconsin. It is always nice to welcome someone with a great sense of humor. I'm not too familiar with the coin you have questions about but it looks like Del has helped you out. The mountain thing in Close Encounters is called Devils Tower and it is in Wyoming. I rode my Harley there a couple of times and it is a beutiful site. Good luck with your searches and looking forward to your input.

[Pona]

The mountain thing in Close Encounters is called Devils Tower... :embarrassed: Oh yeah thats it :) Only been on the forum a few hours and already offended the entire population of Wyoming lol 8/

Riding a Harley to Devils tower...man that sounds like a great trip :) Ive just added that to my wish list.

thanks also for the welcome Fire fighter :)

[aloldstuff]

Welcome from western MA. Yes we have a wall that the tumble weeds collect on and we clean it off yearly.

Loved your intro, hope you can empty your bucket list.

Looking forward to your furture posts.

[lee]

alright mukka !!!!!! oi oi from a brit living in connecticut , luvly coin that by the way.
if you ever fancy a trip over here and wana knock some of those things of ya wish list gis a shout and you can stay at my house.
im from the east end of london so im prolly gona kill you at some point during your stay , nick your detector and bury you in me garden.......just a heads up lmao.
sereiosly mate, if you do need a place to dose for a few weeks over here do message me.
welcome to the forum matey boy.

[Pona]

Welcome from western MA. Yes we have a wall that the tumble weeds collect on and we clean it off yearly
Thank you for the welcome Aloldstuff, I knew there had to be a wall somewhere....all my mates reckon I was just mental...whos laughing now eh? :cheesysmile:

Thanks also to Lee... I'll deffo give you a shout if I'm ever over your way :) Nothing wrong with the East end of London..in my eyes that makes you a real Londoner. As for the killing, pinching part....being born in Pensnett (near Dudley) I find it rude not to pinch things rofl.
Obviously being a &quot:beerbuddy:lack country lad I get accused of using the *language of the poor* quite often:)

For those not familiar with Dudley and the Black Country in general, think Beirut but with more desolation. :cheesysmile: Its that bad most of Africa send aid to us!!!!
*Language of the poor* If you read this in the style of Prince Charles then your way off the mark. Think more Ozzy Osbourne but even harder to understand. :peace:

[Tony Two-Cent]

Wecome to the forum, Pona! :waving:

I'm definitely not an expert, but the coin looks like it could be authentic to me. It has the right color and wear patterns, and the old hole adds to its authenicity too.

Regarding your list, I have seen a rattlesnake in the wild but it wasn't near a cactus. However, I have been to the desert in Arizona and have seen many cactuses and tumbleweeds. All of the tumbleweeds eventually blow to Canada where they are woven into tuques.

I have also been to Devil's Tower in Wyoming on a Boy Scout trip in 1981. Our old Boy Scout bus was so dilapidated that we all had to get out and push every time we came to a steep uphill grade. When we finally got to Devil's Tower we were so excited that we all ran to the tower and started climbing up it. A not-so-amused park ranger on a bullhorn told us to come down and informed us that you had to have a permit to climb the tower. :embarrassed:

And hey, if we can figure out Lee's cockney slang then we can understand anything! lol

Glad to have you here and I hope the coin is the real deal!

[Pona]

Hello Tony and thanks for your input regarding the coin. Yes i agree about the hole in the coin, its not round but more eye shaped, which I dont know but guessing old nails would have been that shape?? Having said that any coin faker worth his salt would probably know this too:huh: I'm going over to see the coin at the weekend so hopefully I can get a few more photos and post them up :)

I have seen a rattlesnake in the wild but it wasn't near a cactus tell it to try harder next time. lol :rolleyes:

I have been to the desert in Arizona and have seen many cactuses and tumbleweeds. Cool! I will get to see this one day with a bit of luck. :)

All of the tumbleweeds eventually blow to Canada where they are woven into tuques. rofl i really did laugh out loud at that.

I like the Devils tower story :) so your not aloud to climb it? :( Richard Dreyfuss has a lot to answer for in my opinion :-\

[Tony Two-Cent]

I like the Devils tower story :) so your not aloud to climb it? :( Richard Dreyfuss has a lot to answer for in my opinion :-\


You're allowed to climb it but you have to get a permit first at the ranger station. I guess they want to know who to contact if you... have an accident or something. We were just climbing on the rocks at the base of it, but I guess you're not alllowed to do that without a permit either.

I didn't think to ask Richard Dreyfuss about it when I met him. lol

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/dubbl-t/Contest/Dreyfuss_zps3c39cd90.jpg

[Pona]

lol Touche my friend... thumbsup01 8/ 8/

[Skamaniac]

Welcome from Washington state - The Other Washington. If you ever add visit an (occasionally) active volcano to your list I can set you up with a ride inside the crater by helicopter. (Don't worry, I'm not the pilot.)

Looking forward to your posts and pics of your finds.

[crazyrelic]

The Tumble weeds end up in North Las Vegas. All over the place.

[Pona]

Thank you for the welcome Skamaniac, The idea of being in a helicopter inside the crater of a volcano sounds fantastic...its the occasionally active part that troubles me lol.

Thanks for the reply Crazyrelic....my wifes been to Vegas...all i got was a 2 gaming chips :( If i'd have known i would have asked for a tumble weed :(

[Mudder]

Welcome from South Mississippi. I haven't seen many hammered, but it looks like the real deal. check the coin edge for pour marks and if you don't see them you good. Welcome again and glad that you joined. Phil :uk:usaflag:: :waving:

[Pona]

Thank you Mudder, I had a look at the coin last weekend, I'm no expert butnit looked good to me :) (no signs of mouldmarks etc etc.

[OxShoeDrew]

What the heck did Lee say? He sounded excited about something. :poke: lol he going to (gunna) put a nick in your detector? Not very nice, nor was the killing thing :)

It is widely known that the Rhode Island accent spoken around here is the most coveted lol 8/ I don't even understand half the stuff said around here.

I've been to six on your list....and I never go anywhere :grin: I'd love to detect some of those places.

Welcome from CT (on the Rhode Island line)
Shoe
PS Tony has some serious friends

[coinnut]

Nice coin... it seems to pass all the easy fake tests, like casting, cheap museum replicas, etc... If the specific gravity test is in line to what it should be, then only an expert can scan the surface and see if that patina is deep or just chemically applied and sitting on the surface. A good engraver can make dies and fake those, since every one is a bit different, even if they come from the same dies. But I'm voting real lol

[Pona]

Thank you to everyone who has commented on the coin I posted, I had a better look at it last weekend and it does look real to me. no signs of casting marks on the edges..to be honest it looks too thin to have been cast??
I have taken a couple more photos of it and will do my best to post them up on here when I get home from work tonight....

in case your interested my job is to walk around the streets of London dressed in a pinstripe suit complete with bowler hat and a copy of the Times newspaper under my arm, whilst swinging a black umberella thumbsup01....

Oh and whilst on the subject of Stereotyping what is it with you lot and the fact you all think we British have bad teeth?? I'm pleased to report all 6 of my teeth are in great condition, so there |:cheering: :rolleyes: lol

[tanacat]

Oh and whilst on the subject of Stereotyping what is it with you lot and the fact you all think we British have bad teeth?? I'm pleased to report all 6 of my teeth are in great condition, so there |:cheering: :rolleyes: lol


Being from Kentucky- I can relate! :cheesysmile: I have all of my teeth are in great condition lol

I also wear shoes, have a washing machine in the house, have skyscrapers in our city, wash my kids faces and yes I've heard of Led Zeppelin! :) (I was wearing a Led Zeppelin shirt while a camp counselor in Colorado and some of the staff asked YOU'VE heard of Led Zeppelin?! )

Anyway, welcome to the forum Jon :groovy:

[Pona]

lol thanks for the reply Tanacat, You wash your kids faces? :shocked03: That almost makes you Royalty in my eyes lol

Robert Plant does actually live about 5 mins drive from me, I see him most weeks in our local pub (when hes not doing band stuff) and I'm pleased to say hes a great guy and will talk to anyone who wants to chat etc. The only down side is he supports Wolverhampton Wanderes but everyone has a cross to bare i suppose :)

I used to be good mates with John Bonhams son as well, he was the first person i knew that had a video recorder. I can still remember Johns drum kit in his house just after he died and still had a bottle of Jack Daniels on the seat :(

Shame really, I reckon Led Zep could have been pretty big if they had stuck at it :rolleyes:

Also i never said i had ALL my own teeth, I just know the 6 i have really are in good condition |:cheering:

[coinnut]

Come on :rolleyes: we know your real name is John Steed and you like Emma Peel lots lol Yes John Bonham's death was a sad day indeed. We were discussing plans to go get tickets in Montreal (I think it was) and return to see the show. That show never happened :( But you are also responsible for Pink Floyd so we are even lol

[Pona]

John Steed :hysterical: quality! |:cheering:

Never got the chance to see Zep play, I was a few years too young. I blame my Mom and Dad for not getting drunk a few years earlier :)
I have since seen Planty and Jimmy Page play together, but if I'm honest i couldnt believe how spaced out Jimmy Page was..music was superb though )

Pink Floyd....epic! Never seen them play either I'm sorry to say. :(

and another band I would have loved to have seen in their hay day is Free.

[lee]

im mates with rod stewart..... does that count ? i was his butcher in england.
ill tell you who was another good band ELO.

[Pona]

Rod Stewart counts apart from when hes supporting Scottish football :cheesysmile: I would imagine hes a great guy to know, he always come across pretty genuine on TV??

ELO was never a band I was into back in the day...started listening to Bev Bevins show on one of our local radio stations and now have got really into them. The mans a musical genius. when you get the likes of Eric Clapton and Paul McCartney singing your praises you must have done something right :) its just taken me 30 years to realise it :cheesysmile:

[Pona]

Hello Comrades, Just thought i would pop back on here to say hi :) Its been ages since i was last on here!!! I have had what can only be described as one of the worst years in my life..Mom having Dementia, Dad deciding that he wants to play the selfish card and my sister proving once and for she is the heartless c*w i always thought she was!

Anyhows. things almost back to normal now, glad to see you are all still here and digging up some nice finds.

Best wishes Jon.

[del]

Sorry to hear about your Mother Jon , hope all gets to normal very soon . Coinnut will be very happy that your back here so he can go back to "stereo-typing" all you Brits together again. :lol:

Welcome back.

Dan

[Longhair]

Sorry about your Mum. My Dad had Alzheimer's so I know what it's like.
But are you sure you're not leaving out the part about the mission for MI6? 38951

:rofl:

[Otis Campbell]

Welcome nice coin too!

[Pona]

Thank you people, its much appreciated :) I'm sorry to say the coin wasnt one of my finds Otis, It was part of a collection given to an Auctioneer friend :(

Quote Del "Coinnut will be very happy that your back here so he can go back to "stereo-typing" all you Brits together again. :lol: " How dare he! I was so shocked by that comment, I broke my monocle, dropped my copy of "The Times" from under my arm & gone right off my cup of tea! Just to prove a point I'm now off to clean all 3 of my teeth!!! :lol: :thumbsup02:

[Boulder]

Hello and Welcome to the forum, from John in NJ. :coffeelaugh:

[giant056]

Welcome to the forum from Kalamazoo :thumbsup02: that's a really nice coin for sure!!