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SafariScott
11-24-2013, 04:48 PM
Got out today for a little bit and pulled this copper with a deer on it, looks like it matches up to a Higley Copper. Lettering is worn smooth on the front all I can see is the deer and the ring around the deer. The back of this coin is worn smooth as well. I also dug some other period artifacts nearby. Any help IDing the coin would be greatly appreciated.

del
11-24-2013, 04:55 PM
Scott there are a few tokens/ coins with a deer or deer-like animal on them so you'll have to post a real clear closeup of the front and reverse to possitively id this one .

SafariScott
11-24-2013, 05:35 PM
Del

The back is worn smooth unfortunately. Same with some of the edges. Ill see if I can get a little better pic and post it later. I think it's going to be a tough one to confirm. I'm so afraid to clean it.

Scott

del
11-24-2013, 05:44 PM
Scott even if the back is smooth there still might be a hint of something to recognize , try adjusting the light source so it casts across the coin's surface this will create contrast of what detail it has . its hard to make out the animals features and look like it has a large head and snout.

HEAVYMETALNUT
11-24-2013, 06:06 PM
crossin my fingeys for ya on a higley!

coinnut
11-24-2013, 06:52 PM
Possible.:clapping: The distance from the deer's head to the edge may give you a clue if it is one of the known die varieties. Anything you can do lighting wise will help on the next pictures. Sometimes just one little detail can help ID it. Great find.

OxShoeDrew
11-24-2013, 08:00 PM
I'm hoping you get a positive ID Scott! Congrats either way :congrats:

SafariScott
11-24-2013, 08:20 PM
Del

Here are some better pics of the front, you can see the ring going around the deer a little clearer. The back as you can tell is worn smooth. I appreciate any help you can give.

Thanks

Scott

Tony Two-Cent
11-24-2013, 08:25 PM
I'm certainly no expert, but by comparing images of a Higley Copper to your photos above the deer definitely looks like a match! The deer's snout, antlers, legs, tail, everything matches.

del
11-24-2013, 08:27 PM
Scott with those better pictures I'd say you could very well have a Higley there my friend . I can clearly see the antlers and the better shape of the head .it looks like one in my book :shocked05::perfect10::happy:

del
11-24-2013, 08:29 PM
Don't send it in to PCGS to be cleaned , a friend found one and did that and it came back in worse shape , more detail was stripped away.

the question is now what was it doing so far from Simsbury ct.

The Rebel
11-24-2013, 08:40 PM
:omg: :twirlingeyes: WTG on an AWESOME find!

SafariScott
11-24-2013, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the help Del.......I have no idea why it was here. I figured it had a chance at being real since the location and other relics near by seemed period. Your right though it was far from its home.

coinnut
11-24-2013, 09:03 PM
Nice pictures. It does look like a Higley. I'm leaning towards Breen 238 variety. Front says The Value Of Three Pence and the reverse says Connecticvt (about 12 known) The reverse would have 3 hammers. Not a positive Id by any means:lol: But that is what I think it is, mostly because I don't see any evidence of the "III" right under the deer.

SafariScott
11-24-2013, 09:37 PM
Thanks George. You guys have been a huge help on this. I greatly appreciate it.

Lodge Scent
11-24-2013, 10:12 PM
Incredible dig ! :congrats:

del
11-25-2013, 07:16 PM
Nice pictures. It does look like a Higley. I'm leaning towards Breen 238 variety. Front says The Value Of Three Pence and the reverse says Connecticvt (about 12 known) The reverse would have 3 hammers. Not a positive Id by any means:lol: But that is what I think it is, mostly because I don't see any evidence of the "III" right under the deer.

:thinkingabout::thinkingabout:Hey Scott any way to get the light to cast across this coin and wth a camera that has a macro setting ?? I would really like to give it a variety type ID.

HEAVYMETALNUT
11-25-2013, 08:12 PM
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!:shocked05::congrats::clapping::perfect10::b ananadance::drool::cheering::daydream::loveit::yah oo::happydance01:congrats dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that's one rare deer!

SafariScott
11-25-2013, 10:06 PM
Dan

ill try to take some better pics tomorrow night and post them.


Thanks again for all your help.

Scott

OxShoeDrew
11-26-2013, 04:45 PM
I texted Scott that it looked like a John Deere tool tag to me...circa 1978 :hystericallaugh: He didn't find it amusing. :)
That is really one heck of a find.

milco
11-26-2013, 10:04 PM
Perfect timing for deer hunting season! Congrats on what I assume is a crazy sick find! I have never heard of such a coin until this thread. When I googled it, WOW!! Hope we can see some nice clear, clean pics on that thing! Congrats!!

Coinshooter
11-30-2013, 01:00 AM
Congrats Scott, I thought it was just a piece of jewelry when I first saw it. Amazing how rare they are!

don in ny
12-20-2013, 10:07 AM
Certainly looks like a Higley. A valuable piece even in this condition with a hole. One of the foremost experts on Higleys is Dan Freidus. He's out at the U of Mich. If you can send me better pics, I'll forward them on to him for his opinion. Even though it has a hole and is encrusted, if you could get the weight in grains it would help. If you know someone who reloads the grain scale for that is great and accurate.
Don Mituzas
Former contributor for Colonials to the Guide Book of United States Coins (1995-2003).
Founding member and first treasurer C4 - Colonial Coin Collectors Club

SafariScott
12-20-2013, 08:56 PM
Thanks Don for your help I sent you a private message.

Bell-Two
12-25-2013, 11:49 AM
Man a Higley Copper that is a significant find....WOW :loveit:

will penny
01-02-2014, 08:32 AM
https://www.google.com/search?q=higley+copper&client=firefox-a&hs=zxj&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=y2nFUvSoAcb32QXt4IDYCQ&ved=0CDkQsAQ&biw=1348&bih=608

don in ny
02-27-2014, 11:01 AM
The reason a Higley would be so far from Simsbury is because they were made of such pure copper the goldsmiths like to use them to alloy gold.

giant056
02-27-2014, 11:29 AM
Awesome find for sure :thumbsup02:

.......... :congrats:

Sal66
03-31-2014, 03:31 AM
:thumbsup02: WOW !! The HOLY GRAIL of Coppers !!! Nice find. Does anyone know how much the hole and the Condition will effect the Value of the Coin ? By the way, I haven't been on in a long time and I Love the New changes to the site !

Cooper
02-24-2018, 08:46 PM
Super nice congrats

calabash digger
02-24-2018, 09:59 PM
Wow!