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Thiltzy
07-06-2014, 05:23 PM
Dave and I had mapped out 5 new potential cellar hole sites and decided to start at one that we felt had really good potential. I guess we made the right choice because we ended up spending the entire day at the 1st site. At around 5pm we remembered there was suppose to be another one about a quarter mile away and that's where I got this very intriguing early 1700's coin. It looks like 1706 but I'm not positive. The coin is size of a half penny or exactly 24mm and the VDI reading was low at around 45-50. So I am praying that someone out there can Identify this for me. One side is a bust facing right and the other side has a standing figure that looks like the Mass. standing Indian you see on the state copper.

Got a few other mystery items that I also need help with such as the long decorative brass piece, a flat silver color lead circle with numbers and symbols and two early eagle one piece buttons. One of the back marks shows a small eagle clasping arrows and branch with 5 stars above the head and the other is convex with just stars on the back. The Eagle Infantry Cuff button is from last week, I forgot to post it.
It was a heck of hunt even though I dug into a bumble bee nest and got stung right through my leather glove and into my knuckle :ticked:

aloldstuff
07-06-2014, 05:42 PM
Great bunch of finds. I also want to know about the odd copper so I'm hoping that someone will chime in about it.

HEAVYMETALNUT
07-06-2014, 05:45 PM
nice relics and coins todd.no clue what the copper is.it's one i never seen dug before and about the size of a half cent looks to be 1796 not 1706 .had a blast this hunt,glad it turned out better than last weeks sites i picked

Thiltzy
07-06-2014, 05:52 PM
nice relics and coins todd.no clue what the copper is.it's one i never seen dug before and about the size of a half cent looks to be 1796 not 1706 .had a blast this hunt,glad it turned out better than last weeks sites i picked Thanks partner, I'm hoping someone on Face books Colonial and Early Us coins site can ID it.

Thiltzy
07-06-2014, 05:54 PM
Great bunch of finds. I also want to know about the odd copper so I'm hoping that someone will chime in about it. Thanks Al, I think Dave may be right about 1796 and the reverse looks more like a colonial militant soldier the more I look at it

coinnut
07-06-2014, 05:59 PM
Great hunt!! You guys killed it today. I'm not sure if this is it, but it is similar. Especially the reverse.

http://www.allnumis.com/coin/italian-states/5-soldi-1796-29291

HEAVYMETALNUT
07-06-2014, 06:04 PM
think i found it http://www.ebay.com/itm/SARDINIA-1796-5-SOLDI-24mm-5gr-COPPER-ITALIAN-STATES-OLD-RARE-COLLECTABLE-COIN-/370930901267

del
07-06-2014, 06:07 PM
Sardinia Italian State 1796 Copper
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Sardinia-Italian-State-1794-Copper-5-Soldi-World-Coin-Italy-Standing-figure-Rare-/171150651654?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item27d95fb106

HEAVYMETALNUT
07-06-2014, 06:08 PM
hey G didn't even see your post geesh

Thiltzy
07-06-2014, 06:26 PM
Great hunt!! You guys killed it today. I'm not sure if this is it, but it is similar. Especially the reverse.

http://www.allnumis.com/coin/italian-states/5-soldi-1796-29291 Thanks George for finding the coin and thanks Dan and Dave for taking the time but it looks like George was faster on the trigger :hystericallaugh:

HEAVYMETALNUT
07-06-2014, 06:32 PM
Thanks George for finding the coin and thanks Dan and Dave for taking the time but it looks like George was faster on the trigger :hystericallaugh:
thats cuz i was too busy posting on facebook then went to this to post:coffeelaugh:

Bell-Two
07-06-2014, 06:40 PM
My gosh what a cornucopia of fabulous finds. Congrats on such a wonderful hunt. Just think that all these beautiful things have been lost until you restored them to light of day! Thanks!
:perfect10:

Thiltzy
07-06-2014, 06:41 PM
My gosh what a cornucopia of fabulous finds. Congrats on such a wonderful hunt. Just think that all these beautiful things have been lost until you restored them to light of day! Thanks!
:perfect10: To kind Bell...thanks

Trooper Bri
07-06-2014, 07:19 PM
Fantastic stuff guys! Bell-Two sums it up nicely. Such a long journey only to be lost in the dirt.

kpmoose
07-06-2014, 08:49 PM
Nice work again Todd. Makes the bee sting worth it. :notworthy:

Tony Two-Cent
07-06-2014, 09:13 PM
Incredible finds once again, Todd! Here I am still trying to find my first fatty Indian Head after 30 years of detecting, and yours doesn't even get a mention. :lol:

Nice coins and buttons, and I'm glad that your 1796 copper was identified. I'm really curious about that long decorative brass object though. The designs on it are very unusual. Intriguing.

I like the silver thimble too. Makes you wonder who "E.P.C." was.

Congrats on another very successful hunt!

Twobit
07-06-2014, 09:15 PM
Just amazing. If you guys haven't done a tutorial on your research methods I beg you to think about doing it. Congrats on the cool copper.

Twobit
07-06-2014, 09:49 PM
Total out-of-left field guess: the long brass ornamental thing looks like a scabbard for a dagger or knife with a Central American or North American native design. The thing in the center looks like a native symbol for octopus to me. Like I said, this is a hip shot guess...

HEAVYMETALNUT
07-06-2014, 10:59 PM
Total out-of-left field guess: the long brass ornamental thing looks like a scabbard for a dagger or knife with a Central American or North American native design. The thing in the center looks like a native symbol for octopus to me. Like I said, this is a hip shot guess...
i think it may be a squished parasol top.similiar to mine way of on left side.came from the same site

fsa46
07-07-2014, 05:38 AM
WOW, looking at both of your finds I would say you made the right choice on where to go. Congratulations on a awesome hunt.

don in ny
07-07-2014, 05:46 AM
You guys never cease to amaze me. Way to go!

The Rebel
07-07-2014, 08:32 AM
WTG Todd on more amazing finds! Sorry to hear about the bumblebees, but at least it was yellow jackets or worse.

Twobit
07-07-2014, 02:06 PM
Like I said Heavymetal...I was coming from left field! :grin:
Thanks though, I never knew parasol tops were so large and elaborate. Are you sure they didn't store knives in the tops of their parasols? ;)

Lodge Scent
07-07-2014, 04:13 PM
What a great hunt! Very cool copper find. Makes me want to get out and swing the coil !

Thiltzy
07-07-2014, 05:14 PM
WTG Todd on more amazing finds! Sorry to hear about the bumblebees, but at least it was yellow jackets or worse. You absolutely right Roger. The last yellow jack hive I unearthed tore me to shreds:stretcher: . Thanks everyone else for the reply's

giant056
07-07-2014, 05:24 PM
Fantastic old relics and coins you found there Todd :thumbsup02:

....................... :congrats:

Isaac
07-07-2014, 06:46 PM
Amazing hunt!!! :thumbsup02: Congrats on the beautiful copper coins and relics...

Timewarpdigger
07-07-2014, 07:41 PM
An awesome variety of finds. Congrats, safe & HH

kray
07-07-2014, 09:25 PM
Nice finds, Todd. The one on EB also looks to be a 1706. Oh well, and I can't belive the person only wants $30! I'm sure it's worth way more than that to you. It'd be priceless to me.