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lee
07-23-2014, 06:57 PM
as some of you know i own a historic home built in 1775 and called the captain john Francis house.
since ive been living here ive found secret passages,false walls and a hide hole for the slaves being sheltered by the owners before getting them out on the underground railroad .
well today i was messing around with one of the fire places and found this behind the bricks.
it says on the tag that was with it "found on the Henry buck farm in April 1881" and after looking through some documents on my house i see the bucks have ties with my house, the buck farm is half mile down the road from me and now a road and a business are in the place it was.
have i got a native Indian axe head here or what ?
its made of stone 7 inches long and 4 inches wide and an inch thick at its widest point.

http://i62.tinypic.com/ictxrk.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/311nyh0.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/27xgvq0.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/a58h85.jpg

kpmoose
07-23-2014, 07:18 PM
I'm no expert, so I don't know for sure, but it certainly looks like one to me. It's really cool whatever it is? :wow::wow::wow:

Lee, have you ever checked above the framing of your front door? I've heard that when building the house, they used to place a a Silver Dollar above the front door- for luck or to ward off evil spirits or something like that?

coinnut
07-23-2014, 07:43 PM
From the looks of it I would say ...yes. Looks like a nice native American relic, but how old is the real question :lol: Congrats on a super find!!

Twobit
07-23-2014, 08:22 PM
Permission to come over and rummage through your house?

lee
07-23-2014, 08:25 PM
Permission to come over and rummage through your house?
permission granted mate.

Cheap Thrills
07-23-2014, 08:49 PM
It looks like one of those "counting coup " stones .A head like that would be mounted on a stick with rawhide and used by one brave to whack his adversary "outside his head " and cause him embarrassment and shame rather than kill him . I'm not an authority but I have stayed at a Motel6,
watched a lot of cowboy movies and read a lot of comic books .

kpmoose
07-23-2014, 08:54 PM
I'm not an authority but I have stayed at a Motel6

:hystericallaugh:

Bell-Two
07-23-2014, 09:56 PM
Nice full grooved axe, archaic period approximate 7,000 bc 9,000 bc

lee
07-23-2014, 10:01 PM
Nice full grooved axe, archaic period approximate 7,000 bc 9,000 bc

are you kidding me ? really that old ?...omg

Bell-Two
07-23-2014, 10:29 PM
Where are you located, what state where it was found? Knowing that I might be able to give you a bit more information on it.

Restoring Your Finds
07-24-2014, 02:38 AM
Nice full grooved axe, archaic period approximate 7,000 bc 9,000 bc

+1 ! Very nice and well preserved artefact !! Congrats !

MangoAve
07-24-2014, 06:07 AM
I would agree it is such. Are you trying to say you don't even need to leave your house to find good stuff while the rest of us do?

HEAVYMETALNUT
07-24-2014, 06:26 AM
american detectorist group hunt at Lee's house sunday 6am sharp! awesome find!

rsarge1
07-24-2014, 06:47 AM
american detectorist group hunt at Lee's house sunday 6am sharp! awesome find!

:grouphug::rofl: I'll hop the first plane and be there :beerbuddy:

lee
07-24-2014, 07:21 AM
ha ha ha ha you guys...lol.you lads are always welcome to detect my yard you know that.
bell mate , im located in Wethersfield ct

Lodge Scent
07-24-2014, 01:13 PM
A real beauty! Before I got trapped in this gravity sucking, black hole hobby of metal detecting, ;) I actually had many other hobbies. One was hunting for native American artifacts. I did that for many years and never found an axe head that nice.

Bell-Two
07-24-2014, 02:52 PM
ha ha ha ha you guys...lol.you lads are always welcome to detect my yard you know that.
bell mate , im located in Wethersfield ct

I know more about the midwestern stuff than the Eastern artifacts. I estimated the age from the style of the grooving, typically, but not always the full groove is older style than the three quarters groove. Check around there should be a museum that can give you more information or a university. Axes that are not plow struck are difficult to find just because of their size they tend to get hit more often than a smaller point. Here is one I found while detecting a field here in Ohio, it is very nice.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t184/Tony_Mantia/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1932_zps8238ddb6.jpg (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/Tony_Mantia/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1932_zps8238ddb6.jpg.html)

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t184/Tony_Mantia/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1931_zpsb7a7569a.jpg (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/Tony_Mantia/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1931_zpsb7a7569a.jpg.html)

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t184/Tony_Mantia/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1930_zps742a9ffb.jpg (http://s160.photobucket.com/user/Tony_Mantia/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1930_zps742a9ffb.jpg.html)

Ronandari
07-24-2014, 03:48 PM
Wow! That is awesome. :shocked03: It must be Super to have so much history in your own yard. I found this stone piece while hunting last summer. I always suspected that it may have nene an axe or tool of some sort. I wondered how they drilled such perfect holes in a rock.

del
07-24-2014, 06:04 PM
Great early stone ax Lee ,its a museum quality piece for sure


american detectorist group hunt at Lee's house sunday 6am sharp! awesome find!

:lol: I'll bring the coffee and donuts

Isaac
07-24-2014, 07:03 PM
Holy smokes! That's incredible! :perfect10:

lee
07-24-2014, 07:19 PM
Great early stone ax Lee ,its a museum quality piece for sure



:lol: I'll bring the coffee and donuts
ha ha ha whats realy funny is i mean it, i have 3/4 of an acre and id love to av you lot round to detect it.
thanks Del, i am considering taking it to the Peabody and asking them if they would like it.

Twobit
07-24-2014, 08:41 PM
permission granted mate.

I'll bring my wife and the ladies can talk about math curriculum....

fsa46
07-25-2014, 05:59 AM
Outstanding find Lee. I'll bring the backhoe.

chief5709
07-25-2014, 06:42 AM
The hell with the yard, I want to go through the house :cool:

Very nice house find Lee!

MangoAve
07-25-2014, 07:42 AM
Chief, I think the yard is better. Outside there is an allowable degree of negligance. :lol: Unless you are inside you go to his finds case "oh, what's this? I think I found something. I am unsure but it looks like an old coin. It looks like all this stuff was neatly arranged just for me to find."

chief5709
07-25-2014, 09:30 AM
Chief, I think the yard is better. Outside there is an allowable degree of negligance. :lol: Unless you are inside you go to his finds case "oh, what's this? I think I found something. I am unsure but it looks like an old coin. It looks like all this stuff was neatly arranged just for me to find."

You know the old saying "there was no damage until the fire department showed up" :shocked02: I want to rip some of those walls open. I can bring an entire recruit class

lee
07-25-2014, 09:27 PM
you lot would love it in my house, its been kept a lot like it was back in the 1700s some of the ceilings are still the oak beamed ones and one of my two attics is like being on a bloody ship , there's these huge like boat joists going from the floor to each side of the roof, the basement although finished has the original stone walls and the old servants fire place is still perfectly preserved .
i also have one of only two 1700s granite sinks in wethersfield .
honestly its like living in a museum .
i know as we get older most people down size where they live and move to smaller dwellings................"sod that" i want to die here and even then ill come back and haunt the house.

kpmoose
07-25-2014, 09:51 PM
What's your address Lee? I'd feel pretty confident knocking on your door asking for permission. :beerbuddy:

On a serious note, the fact that you are considering donating to the Peabody museum is very commendable.:thumbsup01: Make sure they give ya a lifetime membership if they want it, which I'm sure any museum would. :groovy:

BTV Digger
07-25-2014, 09:52 PM
Wow, great find. You need to start poking around with a broom handle to locate all the hollow spaces behind your walls!

John