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OxShoeDrew
10-18-2014, 11:31 AM
Yesterday after work I was detecting the far back fields of a pounded cellar hole. It was quiet as usual... but then the nails started :shocked01: I looked up and saw a rock lined well and was very happy :yes: The hole was very small and old. It must have been gone by 1800. Only the immediate area around the hole can be detected as it has turned into swamp. I stayed an hour yesterday and found a tombac and about four shoe buckle parts. I've never dug so many different shoe buckle parts at one place. :shocked01: I went back this morning for two more hours to pick up the rest of the stuff. Does the second 7 on the date of the coin look weird? Thanks, Drew

Jyes
10-18-2014, 11:47 AM
Have to agree on the age, probably abandoned by early 1800s. Nice old finds, perhaps it is a buggered up 7 or maybe it is a 2 or possibly a 3, but you have it in hand and see it better than we can in the pics.... Don

aloldstuff
10-18-2014, 12:45 PM
WTG Drew, wonderful 1 reale. That sure is a lot of shoe buckle parts and love your buttons. :congrats:on some great finds.

Jyes
10-18-2014, 01:36 PM
The more I looked at your date the more I think it is 1783. I happen to have found a 1783 One Real years ago and took a closeup of the date, and even though different punches/dies were used I believe your last digit is a 3. At least you can compare my 3 with what you see on your coin.

Don

OxShoeDrew
10-18-2014, 01:49 PM
Thanks Al! Don, thank you as well...let me take a better picture when I get a sec.

OxShoeDrew
10-18-2014, 02:38 PM
I tried to get a better pic but my phone, nor the sun will cooperate. Thanks Don, someday I'll buy a camera :lol:

Tony Two-Cent
10-18-2014, 03:45 PM
My first instinct was 1783 as well. Either way it's an incredible find! :smitten:

You got some nice colonial buttons and buckle fragments too. My cellar hole envy is acting up again! :envious:

:congrats:

p.s. I added it to the banner as 1783. If you decide that it's 1787 let me know and I will change it. :yes:

The Rebel
10-18-2014, 04:10 PM
WTG Drew on the finds! Gotta love Colonial Spanish Silver in the hole!

That sure looks like an old site. Bet with all of that activity there based on the all the different shoe parts there's got to be more coinage there.

Lodge Scent
10-18-2014, 05:30 PM
That's a beauty Drew ! Nice job sniffing out that site. One of my best all time virgin cellar hole sites was only 300 feet from a pounded cellar hole site.

It's hard to explain that nice array of buckle fragments :dontknow:, but it is pretty cool. :congrats: on a nice hunt.

Trooper Bri
10-18-2014, 05:44 PM
Nice little pile of finds Drew, and congrats on the silver!

del
10-18-2014, 05:52 PM
Drew great coin :smitten:, if you ever go back check near the edge of the swamps I've found more than a few complete shoe buckles by them . congrats :thumbsup02:

OxShoeDrew
10-18-2014, 06:16 PM
Thank you everyone!

Drew great coin :smitten:, if you ever go back check near the edge of the swamps I've found more than a few complete shoe buckles by them . congrats :thumbsup02: Dan Do you think the ground was moist even back then and grabbed more buckles?

del
10-18-2014, 06:19 PM
Thank you everyone!
Dan Do you think the ground was moist even back then and grabbed more buckles?

possibly Drew , but it seamed after they were out of style or unusable they would toss them or use them as fill when they farmed .

don in ny
10-18-2014, 06:58 PM
Looks more like a 3 to me. I found a 1782 1 real about 6 weeks ago. Nice find.
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coinsniffa
10-18-2014, 11:14 PM
Nice array of finds and nice detail on the Reale!

Isaac
10-19-2014, 06:51 AM
Wow what a great outing! Lots of nice shoe buckle fragments and of course the reale! :smitten: Makes for a great hunt :) Hopefully there's a complete shoe buckle waiting for you there.

CTX Tom
10-19-2014, 09:01 AM
Great coin ox.What settings do you use on your t2 at cellar holes?

Thiltzy
10-19-2014, 09:02 AM
Great find on the well and the One reale drew. I agree on 1783. Great score!

OxShoeDrew
10-19-2014, 09:31 AM
Thank you folks....Tom, I only use two basic programs. The vast majority of the time I leave the disc at 10, 2+ tones, and sens is set so that the machine is silent (around here it is usually 95). Too much power (like going to 0 disc or sense at 99, or boost mode) and it doesn't ID targets as well.
I have a program that I use when there is machine gun nails (and I'm too lazy to put on a small coil) Disc 21, tones 1+, sens silent then even back off a bit more (around 90 in these parts).

HEAVYMETALNUT
10-19-2014, 10:01 AM
nice spanish silver drew!

Bell-Two
10-19-2014, 10:44 PM
So very nice finds...wow I have a bad case of Reale lust building! :wow:

OxShoeDrew
10-25-2014, 12:56 PM
Thanks everyone, I went back this AM and dug a CT copper and MORE shoe buckle parts.

MangoAve
10-25-2014, 01:21 PM
Still more stuff there? Wow. Good enough place to get lucky twice. Looks like an '87. I can't zoom well enough and yes I could try Internet for photos to try an match..

del
10-25-2014, 07:21 PM
wow Drew , looks like you found a stock or butt plate from an old musket too! congrats ...

any scroll or tool marks on it ??

OxShoeDrew
10-25-2014, 08:37 PM
Yeah, Jim I thought it was 87 also but I wasn't sure. Thanks.
Dan, I was going to post the following pic of that musket butt with the CT copper because I thought it interesting but I didn't know what it was. Thanks for the ID!

Oh....and I almost forgot, that large chape was half sticking out of the ground! It was on the lip of a collapsed part of the hole. I found it under leaves while standing IN the hole.
...and the copper was only two inches deep. Go figure.

Ill Digger
10-26-2014, 01:02 AM
Holy cow Drew!! :shocked05: You guys out east are killing me with you guys finding all these Reales!:envious:
Sweet, sweet find!
Congrats!! :grin:

foundation hunter
10-27-2014, 08:36 AM
Real nice silver.
Gary

del
10-27-2014, 05:49 PM
Drew , I'm thinking the stock plate is a variant of one of the brown bess models but could still date this piece anywhere from about 1722 to well after the 1810.