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DiggerAl
03-21-2016, 09:35 PM
As the title says, the pictures i took may not be with the right lighting or from the right angles, but if you read my dad's latest post, you will see I found a flat copper, nothing on it. I am almost 100% sure it is a coin and not a slug, because i've seen my fair share of slugs, and I don't believe this has the same.. design (can't think of the word, sorry). It is 27mm in diameter, give or take maybe a fraction of a millimeter. After doing a bit of research, i found a copper that size is a KG III Half Penny, and i would be STOKED if that is what this was. Thanks in advance for anyone with ideas, and if you want different pictures let me know, because I know these aren't very good. (One of them will have an outline, but that may just be from me TRYING to see something)

Full Metal Digger
03-21-2016, 10:45 PM
Don't know if this will help you Alec but here is the worn 1806 KG 1/2 penny I found.
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Bucknut
03-23-2016, 09:30 AM
Well I think that is definitely an old copper of some sort. The outline that you put in the first pic KINDA looks a little like the harp thingy that are on the old Irish coins but maybe your pic is upside down if that is what it is. Google Irish coins and look at the pics of the old ones and maybe you can match one up to yours?

Gaspipe101
03-23-2016, 05:33 PM
I find those all the time ..... I can positively ID it as TOAST. Got a box full in my basement keep looking you are on the right track.

DiggerAl
03-23-2016, 08:41 PM
Well I think that is definitely an old copper of some sort. The outline that you put in the first pic KINDA looks a little like the harp thingy that are on the old Irish coins but maybe your pic is upside down if that is what it is. Google Irish coins and look at the pics of the old ones and maybe you can match one up to yours?

Sadly, even with me TRYING to see it, i can't seem to see that harp thingy on the back of those old Irish coins. But, in my search to see what you were talking about, i found this, and when i really look at it, I can kinda see some similarities. When i was measuring it, It was actually a bit more than 27mm, it was around 27.5 or 27.8mm maybe, and I kinda just rounded down assuming i was measuring wrong, and i found that this coin that i found had some similarities, is exactly that size. http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinImages/Br-IrishCopper/HIB-G3HD-1781.obv.jpg This is a picture of the face of the coin, which is where i am seeing similarities in where i outlined. I think that little bit i outlined that like, jabs out, is that little band in the back of its head. The website i found it at says it is a KG III Irish Halfpence. That would be pretty sweet. http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinText/Br-IrishCopper.2.html is the site i found it on, not sure haha. Maybe i will find one of these in Connecticut! :) :)

DiggerAl
03-23-2016, 08:42 PM
I find those all the time ..... I can positively ID it as TOAST. Got a box full in my basement keep looking you are on the right track.

Darn, sadly I think you may be right. Hopefully i find one nice in Connecticut this upcoming week :) :)

BTV Digger
04-03-2016, 09:10 AM
Yeah, that's unfortunately what they call in our hobby a Slick Rick. Wish I could give you a decent guess but it looks too far gone. I've got several of these as well - just don't hold up to the test of time.

John

nalc472
04-06-2016, 11:21 AM
Since it has no value I would take a SOS pad to it and U might at least be able to find out what it is. For me it is about the find more than the value. In this case there is no value so try to identify it is more important.

Digger Don
04-06-2016, 01:55 PM
After a little more cleaning, I believe it is a William III53653

del
04-06-2016, 02:20 PM
Looks very very close to a William III doesn't it ? and you found this one in Illinois too !! You just gave a lot of hope to a bunch of "mid-westerners" that finding colonial coins is possible . :notworthy:

Digger Don
04-06-2016, 02:24 PM
Looks very very close to a William III doesn't it ? and you found this one in Illinois too !! You just gave a lot of hope to a bunch of "mid-westerners" that finding colonial coins is possible . :notworthy:Thanks for your help on this one

Tony Two-Cent
04-06-2016, 02:27 PM
It isn't impossible. The French built Fort Crevecoeur near Peoria, Illinois in 1680, and Fort Pimiteoui was built nearby in 1691. There were many expeditions up the Mississippi and Illinois Rivers in the 1600s.