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Pacivilwarluke
07-22-2016, 08:55 PM
Down in SC for a bit, and although its hot, its not stopping me from digging! Here are two mornings worth of results from digging and sifting my Colonial Trashpit site in the lowcountry-

Ended up with 267 pipe stems and bowls! Notably one is marked TD, Thomas Dormer, who started in the pipe making buisness in London in 1755, and one bowl is totally intact, a first from this site! Also dug part of a kettle with the handle, and a colonial shutterdog, which would've held the shutters open on a colonial house. Dug a bunch of bottle bases and tops, sadly none complete but thats the nature of this pit!

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I also dug some crystal/glass goblet stems and bases, one which I was able to reconstruct. One item that almost passed me by was the little half wig curler, thought it was a pipe stem at first. This is the third wig curler from this pit. There was also a ton of brick in this pit, which I stacked up as I was digging.

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While I was scraping away at the sides, I saw an intact base of some sort of cup! I slowly eased it out and saw that I had an awesome english slipware cup, and saw more pieces of it in the hole! I had to reconstruct it a bit, but it is a posset pot, a term which I knew nothing about until I researched a bit. It is likely early 18th century, a similar one was found in CT by archeologists and they said that it was very outdated by the 1790s, the context it was found in. Posset was a drink made from curdled milk with ale or wine- which doesn't sound that great to me haha!

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This was the first of some artifacts I attempted to reconstruct. A Teacup, bowl base, and even a GR Georgius Rex (King George) westerwald stoneware jug that I was able to reconstruct! A GR jug was high on my bucket list, and I'm very happy to be able to own a piece of history like that!

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I also recovered an intricate clay marble, the second one from this site. This one is swirled brown and white and almost looks like polished wood! With items in this pit and the dating of pipe stem bores that I have done, it dates somewhere between the early 1700s and late 1700s.

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Some other non metallic items of interest that came out of the pit were these two matching lion face and paw parts from a teapot or something along those lines. If anyone has an idea what it may be please let me know, thanks! I also got a piece of ceramic with a triangular stamp in it, looks composed of material similar to the bellarmine jug part I dug here in December but then again may be something totally different. I dug plenty of ceramic fragments including creamware, westerwald stoneware, china, staffordshire, slipware, and more! There are a bunch of lovely green, brown and smoky colored pieces that go to the same vessel, hoping to reconstruct that one! Found some pieces with faces on them, which is always cool! One even has the letters T A T. Wish I knew what the whole thing said.EDIT - On second thought maybe it says TAX? This site played a role in the revolution also for the revolutionary side so maybe its political? Or maybe i'm thinking to far in to things haha.

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Luckily I brought my detector too to detect! I found 4 buttons, one with the backmark of William Cleaver, who was a bishop in Britain in the 18th century. I know of certain backmarks with names of famous individuals commemorating events, but this seems unlikely to me, so maybe an unlisted button manufacture. This button seems to date later than most artifacts in the pit, and was in surface dirt so may have been a later drop. I got three rosettes, one is a nice bullseye. Also got some brass tacks, two brass rings, two musketballs, one chewed, one fired, a tag or furniture eschutcheon with leaves on the scalloped edges, bale seal, and some large brass piece.

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And that was about it! Had a blast and can't wait to do it again! Thanks for reading this long winded account! Happy hunting everyone!

owena1
07-22-2016, 09:46 PM
Wow. Amazing!!! Was it easy to locate the trash pit?


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Digger_O'Dell
07-23-2016, 12:15 AM
Those are some incredible finds! Now you just need to find a jigsaw puzzle master and a gallon of superglue to reconstruct all those pieces! :omg:

OxShoeDrew
07-23-2016, 04:26 AM
Very interesting read Luke, thanks! Would they paint the marbles or just left them alone? Congrats!...I need a posset.

Lodge Scent
07-23-2016, 11:17 AM
Fantastic finds. That must have been a lot of fun in spite of the labor. Can't say I have ever seen a marble like that posted. Very cool. :congrats:

BTV Digger
07-23-2016, 11:49 AM
What a great haul Luke! I can imagine the sweat equity you put into finding all that in the Low Country heat. I should know, I'm a Palmetto State native by birth. Looks like you've got some good jigsaw puzzles to work on in the coming months. Man, that clay marble surely is sweet. Congrats!

John

aloldstuff
07-23-2016, 04:59 PM
So many interesting finds.....so many pieces.......love, love, love that marble. Waiting for your response about how hard was it to find the trash pit????

Pacivilwarluke
07-24-2016, 12:30 PM
Wow. Amazing!!! Was it easy to locate the trash pit?


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Thanks! This was found on a ton of land, I used my detector the first two times and found lots of colonial artifacts, and one time I found a dense iron patch, saw that an animal had dug a hole and there were two pipe stems and pottery, dug a test hole and then realized the scope of the pit. :)

Pacivilwarluke
07-24-2016, 12:31 PM
Those are some incredible finds! Now you just need to find a jigsaw puzzle master and a gallon of superglue to reconstruct all those pieces! :omg:

Thanks! Yep the supergluing has commeced! Haha! XD

Pacivilwarluke
07-24-2016, 12:36 PM
Very interesting read Luke, thanks! Would they paint the marbles or just left them alone? Congrats!...I need a posset.

Thanks! Nope that was the natural clay, this ones design is a pyschical component of its clay composition! Pretty cool that they made thjngs like this 250 plus years ago!

Pacivilwarluke
07-24-2016, 12:37 PM
Fantastic finds. That must have been a lot of fun in spite of the labor. Can't say I have ever seen a marble like that posted. Very cool. :congrats:
Thanks! Yeah i'm always in need of a long shower afterwards, its hard work but well worth it!

Pacivilwarluke
07-24-2016, 12:39 PM
So many interesting finds.....so many pieces.......love, love, love that marble. Waiting for your response about how hard was it to find the trash pit????

Thanks!!I'm so happy to have recovered the marble! I outlined the process in the other response- but basically it was by chance and listening to iron hits and finding an iron patch! :)

del
07-25-2016, 08:12 AM
the shear volume of items is mind blowing Lucas :shocked05:, you must show us your sifting set up some time . I know that i would be very interested in seeing it and the general location of the pit in relation to the actual home site . you plan on making a complete clay pipe out of all the pieces (i've seen it done and it looked great too) .

Dan

MangoAve
07-27-2016, 10:09 AM
That's a lot of stuff from a pit. I like the button and the marble.
In reference to Dan's post, I think I did see you in one or two of Isaac's Youtube vids altho idr if it showed the 'machine' and technique. I was intrigued to find clam shells at places. Digging in the woods by the back corner of the cellar were some pottery shards and clam shells. Maybe 8ft from the cellar lip at most. And even right by the front steps of an 1820. 3ft away, if that.. I do have two that I know of if you are ever up this way in CT that I found trash pits and you could sift. The cellars are semi-trashy but I have managed a few keepers from the cellars themselves. (One is amassed with iron).

The Rebel
07-29-2016, 07:22 PM
Sweet lookin bowl! Love the digs that seems so cool to do!

Pacivilwarluke
07-29-2016, 09:26 PM
the shear volume of items is mind blowing Lucas :shocked05:, you must show us your sifting set up some time . I know that i would be very interested in seeing it and the general location of the pit in relation to the actual home site . you plan on making a complete clay pipe out of all the pieces (i've seen it done and it looked great too) .

Dan

Thanks! My sifting set up is just a sifter I made and I typically have a bucket and methodically sift. And I use my detector in the base of the pit and in dirt. This site was actually a tavern- which accounts for the volume. I have a prototype I made from this pit last year with a half bowl- but I'll attempt a good recontruction with these! :)

Pacivilwarluke
07-29-2016, 09:29 PM
That's a lot of stuff from a pit. I like the button and the marble.
In reference to Dan's post, I think I did see you in one or two of Isaac's Youtube vids altho idr if it showed the 'machine' and technique. I was intrigued to find clam shells at places. Digging in the woods by the back corner of the cellar were some pottery shards and clam shells. Maybe 8ft from the cellar lip at most. And even right by the front steps of an 1820. 3ft away, if that.. I do have two that I know of if you are ever up this way in CT that I found trash pits and you could sift. The cellars are semi-trashy but I have managed a few keepers from the cellars themselves. (One is amassed with iron).

Thanks so much! Yep That pit is the one that I dug for this post! :) it is very intriguing, and in this area shell middens show up a bit. They really end up everywhere haha!

Pacivilwarluke
07-29-2016, 09:30 PM
Sweet lookin bowl! Love the digs that seems so cool to do!

Thank you! :)