MangoAve
02-07-2017, 12:50 PM
This weekend I didn't get to every site that I wanted to, but I still managed a few keepers from the sites I did hit.
I made it to a real small site, but somehow it had two cellars and a separate chimney. Someone had been there the day before hiking through. It almost looked like they dug one hole by the big cellar, but that's it. The site was almost devoid of any targets. There were some modern big iron junk targets by the chimney. Eventually I got lucky with a lower VDI not being a shotgun shell. It was actually a tombac. I did see the 'shelf' by the shank, but it seemed too thin to be a tombac. Somewhere over by the bigger hole I pulled a silver plate button. It has a good amount of silver wash still on it. On the hike in I had noticed a little area under some cedars that was just off the cart path. On the way out, I managed to check the spot out. Good thing as It netted another 1700s shoe buckle. I tried checking the hole again for the parts and I did have a tiny blip. Guess I did technically find the whole thing as the unit was repaired at one point having an iron chape and brass tongue. I hiked back out toward one of the other cellars, which neither of the three are on the old map. It was hit pretty hard. I knew the site I checked was too, so I didn't put much faith in the closer sites. For some reason I couldn't locate in person exactly where the fields across the road were at. I was thinking that might be an overlooked spot.
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I did catch a few nice pics on the way out.
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Another site was a permission site. There I tried following the iron behind the cellar along this path up the hills. This was when I noticed something was up with the snow. There was a target at 6" when I was pinpointing. That was on the layer of 'ice' underneath the powder. For some reason a target that should have been loud and clear was too unstable. Maybe the bottom edge was what I was hearing, or the snow was just really messing with the capabilities. The first target, tho, ended up being an ox knob without any threads. Just a set hole. It must be older. A really steady signal by the stone wall turned out to be a brass key ring. WTH? I scored a small silverplate buckle in the road. After like three targets in the frozen road, my hand was hurting.
I noticed these fields with what looked like a depression cut into the dividing wall. I guess it was just for traffic flow, but I was thinking it could have been a barn site. There was def some activity in those fields. At the bottom, after being in the field for an hour plus, I scored a copper. Turned out to be my first (dateless) draped bust. And my second holed coin.
I thought the little raised part on the front was a flip of hair on the top of the coin by the liberty crown...another matron. Wrong! I eventually realized there is no way the head of a matron was that close to the rim. It is actually the bottom of the coin, and the hole must be where the date is located. The back I saw a wreath, which was another thing that made me first think matron. With a light source on the side, it looks more like a counter stamp than the actual design, but the wreath has the ribbons that go south on the coin. Another indicative piece to show it's something like a draped bust (or liberty cap). The 1/100 and the ribbons look more like a counter stamp with a side light, but I def know now it's a draped bust cent.
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There was another big site that I saw which is on the old map. I think it changed owners within the last 4-6months. Which is good cuz it's no longer private. It was really trashy and hard to find any positive VDI targets. Out by the stone wall I got about half of some ornate buckle or picture frame. It's half and there are no defining features to distinguish which of the two. I also ended up finding a spoon by the cellar lip. It came out really nice after cleaning. The following morning when JoJo showed up to detect (and with Kevin) we determined that the spoon was made sometime between 1872 and 1912. The Victor silver Co started in 1872 and ceased production in 1912. I noticed this mark on the front. Looks like it was made for the Young Women of America, which itself began in 1858. I tried to use the YWOA history to narrow things down, but couldn't. Idk.. 1883 marks a 25th anniversary and 1908 marks 50 yrs of YWOA.
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Sunday was just a lot of hiking. The first site was not on the map either. Turns out because it was close to a park road, that it must have been hit before. I still squeaked out a button and a fired musket ball. The button has some gilt left, mostly the front. It almost looked like there was a design on the front, but not after cleaning it. Now it looks like mercury. Lol. An old (but broken) cobalt blue bottle came out of the field. Someone might have found it before and left it cuz it was broken. But it is thick glass and it def has a few bubbles in the glass making it older. It wasn't machine made. Musket is in second to last pic of thread.
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The second site was a bust for me, but it was surprising for being so far in and so big, that there wasn't more left. Kevin managed a button. We obvi spent too much time there than we should have. I got half of a lock with a brass cover.
The last site was the better site. Right away I got an escutcheon worthy of the D man himself. Nice ornate floral design and it seems there was some sort of cotter pin attachment. Of course the one dime signal I got had to be a flat piece of iron. And I forgot to turn the sense back up to 7 once I got away from the cellar. Out front of the cellar I got two lantern pieces. And I checked that night and it seems we completely missed the barn out back which no hiking goes near. Well, it will get a return trip.
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I'll get a pic of the lock before I remove just the brass cover, and maybe a pic of the lanterns and ox knob. The knob was broken too which indicates either how it was lost or why they tossed it away.
I made it to a real small site, but somehow it had two cellars and a separate chimney. Someone had been there the day before hiking through. It almost looked like they dug one hole by the big cellar, but that's it. The site was almost devoid of any targets. There were some modern big iron junk targets by the chimney. Eventually I got lucky with a lower VDI not being a shotgun shell. It was actually a tombac. I did see the 'shelf' by the shank, but it seemed too thin to be a tombac. Somewhere over by the bigger hole I pulled a silver plate button. It has a good amount of silver wash still on it. On the hike in I had noticed a little area under some cedars that was just off the cart path. On the way out, I managed to check the spot out. Good thing as It netted another 1700s shoe buckle. I tried checking the hole again for the parts and I did have a tiny blip. Guess I did technically find the whole thing as the unit was repaired at one point having an iron chape and brass tongue. I hiked back out toward one of the other cellars, which neither of the three are on the old map. It was hit pretty hard. I knew the site I checked was too, so I didn't put much faith in the closer sites. For some reason I couldn't locate in person exactly where the fields across the road were at. I was thinking that might be an overlooked spot.
57606576075760557588576085759157593576095758757589 57590
I did catch a few nice pics on the way out.
575855758657600
Another site was a permission site. There I tried following the iron behind the cellar along this path up the hills. This was when I noticed something was up with the snow. There was a target at 6" when I was pinpointing. That was on the layer of 'ice' underneath the powder. For some reason a target that should have been loud and clear was too unstable. Maybe the bottom edge was what I was hearing, or the snow was just really messing with the capabilities. The first target, tho, ended up being an ox knob without any threads. Just a set hole. It must be older. A really steady signal by the stone wall turned out to be a brass key ring. WTH? I scored a small silverplate buckle in the road. After like three targets in the frozen road, my hand was hurting.
I noticed these fields with what looked like a depression cut into the dividing wall. I guess it was just for traffic flow, but I was thinking it could have been a barn site. There was def some activity in those fields. At the bottom, after being in the field for an hour plus, I scored a copper. Turned out to be my first (dateless) draped bust. And my second holed coin.
I thought the little raised part on the front was a flip of hair on the top of the coin by the liberty crown...another matron. Wrong! I eventually realized there is no way the head of a matron was that close to the rim. It is actually the bottom of the coin, and the hole must be where the date is located. The back I saw a wreath, which was another thing that made me first think matron. With a light source on the side, it looks more like a counter stamp than the actual design, but the wreath has the ribbons that go south on the coin. Another indicative piece to show it's something like a draped bust (or liberty cap). The 1/100 and the ribbons look more like a counter stamp with a side light, but I def know now it's a draped bust cent.
57596576045760357602
There was another big site that I saw which is on the old map. I think it changed owners within the last 4-6months. Which is good cuz it's no longer private. It was really trashy and hard to find any positive VDI targets. Out by the stone wall I got about half of some ornate buckle or picture frame. It's half and there are no defining features to distinguish which of the two. I also ended up finding a spoon by the cellar lip. It came out really nice after cleaning. The following morning when JoJo showed up to detect (and with Kevin) we determined that the spoon was made sometime between 1872 and 1912. The Victor silver Co started in 1872 and ceased production in 1912. I noticed this mark on the front. Looks like it was made for the Young Women of America, which itself began in 1858. I tried to use the YWOA history to narrow things down, but couldn't. Idk.. 1883 marks a 25th anniversary and 1908 marks 50 yrs of YWOA.
575925761157612
Sunday was just a lot of hiking. The first site was not on the map either. Turns out because it was close to a park road, that it must have been hit before. I still squeaked out a button and a fired musket ball. The button has some gilt left, mostly the front. It almost looked like there was a design on the front, but not after cleaning it. Now it looks like mercury. Lol. An old (but broken) cobalt blue bottle came out of the field. Someone might have found it before and left it cuz it was broken. But it is thick glass and it def has a few bubbles in the glass making it older. It wasn't machine made. Musket is in second to last pic of thread.
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The second site was a bust for me, but it was surprising for being so far in and so big, that there wasn't more left. Kevin managed a button. We obvi spent too much time there than we should have. I got half of a lock with a brass cover.
The last site was the better site. Right away I got an escutcheon worthy of the D man himself. Nice ornate floral design and it seems there was some sort of cotter pin attachment. Of course the one dime signal I got had to be a flat piece of iron. And I forgot to turn the sense back up to 7 once I got away from the cellar. Out front of the cellar I got two lantern pieces. And I checked that night and it seems we completely missed the barn out back which no hiking goes near. Well, it will get a return trip.
5761057597
I'll get a pic of the lock before I remove just the brass cover, and maybe a pic of the lanterns and ox knob. The knob was broken too which indicates either how it was lost or why they tossed it away.