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sniffy
11-29-2010, 08:04 PM
Swung by an old cellar hole today for an hour.....at dark I found this button...didn't know what what it was until I got back to the jeep...EXCELSIOR!!!! WOOT WOOT! stoked on this one....thanks for lookin.

HEAVYMETALNUT
11-29-2010, 08:08 PM
sweet! sittin on the globe type! i still gotta get me one of dem! congrats man!

coinnut
11-29-2010, 08:14 PM
Great hit Jesse <: You gotta try Del's cleaning method on that one. Maybe some silver left on it!!!

del
11-29-2010, 08:28 PM
great button Jesse , New York Militia (1805 - 35) what kind of backmark does it have :confused: . those usually have a thick layer of silver plating and do clean up well. congrats on a beautiful piece of early history :peace: :clapping:

sniffy
11-30-2010, 05:27 AM
great button Jesse , New York Militia (1805 - 35) what kind of backmark does it have :confused: . those usually have a thick layer of silver plating and do clean up well. congrats on a beautiful piece of early history :peace: :clapping:
Hey Dan, could you PM me your cleaning method...I recall seeing how beautiful your Excelsior buttons turned out.

HEAVYMETALNUT
11-30-2010, 06:00 AM
Hey Dan, could you PM me your cleaning method...I recall seeing how beautiful your Excelsior buttons turned out.


rofl so much for the rustic look you were going for aye? :huh:
yeah Jess don't use the electric bench grinder/wire brush wheel combo on this one like the last one you tried to clean :cheesysmile: :teasing: just kiddin man

del
11-30-2010, 07:31 AM
rofl so much for the rustic look you were going for aye? :huh:
yeah Jess don't use the electric bench grinder/wire brush wheel combo on this one like the last one you tried to clean :cheesysmile: :teasing: just kiddin man


:shocked04: wow Jesse , that just ain't right :rolleyes: that sounds like excelsior button envy to me lol lol



Hey Dan, could you PM me your cleaning method...I recall seeing how beautiful your Excelsior buttons turned out.


Jesse on those type of Brass buttons just mix about half clr (the clacium lime rust product) and half water in a cup (you don't want it any stronger), take a toothbrush and dip it in the stuff and brush the button untill you see it foam up a little and discolor .then rinse off under running water and repeat until your satisfied with the results after just give it a good warm rinse and then pat it dry with a paper towel and then put something on it to preserve it ( vaseline , metal protecyor or something similar ). it won't harm the silver gilting at all but it might make it a little gray in color ( but you can take a jeweler's cloth and shine it up again) if there is any pitting on the button where the gilt had came off before you found it it will show more you do this process. generally the gilt on these buttons are worn around the outside &quot:daydream: part but the inside holds alot of silver gilt . take your time with it it should look pretty good when your done .
if you have anymore questions just let me know.

Dan

sniffy
11-30-2010, 06:31 PM
rofl so much for the rustic look you were going for aye? :huh:
yeah Jess don't use the electric bench grinder/wire brush wheel combo on this one like the last one you tried to clean :cheesysmile: :teasing: just kiddin man
GEE WIZ....there was no savin that last button..I found it in a swampy area....maybe the gritty sandpaper didnt' help either... lol

sniffy
11-30-2010, 06:35 PM
:shocked04: wow Jesse , that just ain't right :rolleyes: that sounds like excelsior button envy to me lol lol

Jesse on those type of Brass buttons just mix about half clr (the clacium lime rust product) and half water in a cup (you don't want it any stronger), take a toothbrush and dip it in the stuff and brush the button untill you see it foam up a little and discolor .then rinse off under running water and repeat until your satisfied with the results after just give it a good warm rinse and then pat it dry with a paper towel and then put something on it to preserve it ( vaseline , metal protecyor or something similar ). it won't harm the silver gilting at all but it might make it a little gray in color ( but you can take a jeweler's cloth and shine it up again) if there is any pitting on the button where the gilt had came off before you found it it will show more you do this process. generally the gilt on these buttons are worn around the outside &quot:daydream: part but the inside holds alot of silver gilt . take your time with it it should look pretty good when your done .
if you have anymore questions just let me know.

Dan
Man the abuse! Ill try the CLR method....hopefully it turns out well...because my last excelsior button was a flop and all the pitting sticks out like a sore thumb now. It was pretty rough under the crust.

sniffy
11-30-2010, 07:42 PM
I guess you can't polish a turd and expect it to be pretty.

coinnut
11-30-2010, 07:49 PM
It's the one on the right, correct?? That cleaned up pretty good Jesse. It didn't have any silver left to expose, so you didn't ruin anything. Now that it has no gilt left, you have to finish the job. If you are ever up this way, stop by and we can brighten it up and maybe save the other one too. Buttons are not like coins. They hold up much better and take a cleaning better too. Coins are the luck of the draw, but buttons have a lot of life left in them.

sniffy
11-30-2010, 08:11 PM
It's the one on the right, correct?? That cleaned up pretty good Jesse. It didn't have any silver left to expose, so you didn't ruin anything. Now that it has no gilt left, you have to finish the job. If you are ever up this way, stop by and we can brighten it up and maybe save the other one too. Buttons are not like coins. They hold up much better and take a cleaning better too. Coins are the luck of the draw, but buttons have a lot of life left in them.
Im up that way all the time George. I'd like some cleaning hints and tips...we should all get together for another hunt soon.

coinnut
11-30-2010, 08:23 PM
Im up that way all the time George. I'd like some cleaning hints and tips...we should all get together for another hunt soon.


I know, I hope the weather holds up so we can detect one time before that snow stuff hits :rolleyes:

sniffy
11-30-2010, 08:27 PM
I know, I hope the weather holds up so we can detect one time before that snow stuff hits :rolleyes:
The snow never stopped me before! Is the great Coinut getting soft and cuddly?

coinnut
11-30-2010, 08:30 PM
The snow never stopped me before! Is the great Coinut getting soft and cuddly?


rofl I was worried about you Mr. delicate flower rofl I usually have Wednesdays off. Maybe next week we can get together for a cellar hole hunt. I still want to try my x-5 on one of them hunted out holes. Although lately, the hunted out ones have been just that....hunted out lol

sniffy
11-30-2010, 08:37 PM
rofl I was worried about you Mr. delicate flower rofl I usually have Wednesdays off. Maybe next week we can get together for a cellar hole hunt. I still want to try my x-5 on one of them hunted out holes. Although lately, the hunted out ones have been just that....hunted out lol
WEDNESDAYS!?!?!?! I only get a Saturday or Sunday to hunt. Sites are gettin scarce...but Ole Sniffy found an old colonial today in the middle of nowheres while on the clock.

HEAVYMETALNUT
11-30-2010, 08:54 PM
looks good to me! nice job!

del
12-01-2010, 06:57 AM
looks good to me! nice job!


thumbsup01 i second that :beerbuddy:

sniffy
12-01-2010, 04:27 PM
I kneeled at the edge of my bed, stared at the ceiling with my hands crossed and begged for silver.

coinnut
12-01-2010, 04:31 PM
I kneeled at the edge of my bed, stared at the ceiling with my hands crossed and begged for silver.


rofl That is why they make them little silver plating kits :happydance01: Drop it in and wait for the silvered button to appear lol

sniffy
12-02-2010, 05:55 PM
rofl That is why they make them little silver plating kits :happydance01: Drop it in and wait for the silvered button to appear lol
Now thats an IDEAR!

milco
12-04-2010, 10:18 AM
Very cool historic button!

Jeff r
12-05-2010, 04:20 PM
Fantastic button Sniffy!