Attachment 41798Dan,i did the warm soaks and the heat lamp some of the patina was paper thin but it still has a lot of detail and a full date,can anyone id this.Will the rens wax help with appearance.
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Attachment 41798Dan,i did the warm soaks and the heat lamp some of the patina was paper thin but it still has a lot of detail and a full date,can anyone id this.Will the rens wax help with appearance.
Sorry Gary , I was away out of town for a bit . I think it looks better with much more detail there to see. yes the reddish areas are the rough spots where the protective patina either didn't develop or couldn't hang on to coin any longer. Don't remove any of the thin green patina coating yes cover it with something that will preserve what is left on there. you can definitely tell that the coin has some wear (been circulated) on the high points of the bust but its in very good shape Gary.
That looks very nice have you done any research on variety it is!
Theres like 38 different varieties now that I have it cleaned it looks like the head of 1794 I just don't witch variety it is.i haven't touched the back yet I may just leave it aloneQuote:
Originally Posted by Bell-Two
Nice clean up Gary!
Leaning towards Sheldon 38 but I'm not the best on at attributing coins. Plus I don't have a good reference library to go through all the varieties. Don't have any images of the NC ones either. So that is my guess for now :lol: Jyes or either of the Don's may be able to help you now that you have a more exposed obverse. But also try and get a reverse image up too.
George, I just put a link. Why didn't u check it? The 38-40 varieties had this little tab or raised area below the cap. That's why I guessed 36. There are other possibilities like 22 or 26 but right now I can't have pic next to the pix in link. Plus the back cleaned might help like u mentioned.
Jim you might have both started your replies at the same time , he might have stopped to lookup the different varieties in his book and you finished your reply first . I usually do this a lot on forum posts .
Gary I'm sure some one will chime in the variety type , I'm definitely not the guy for the task though .:lol:
I looked through every variety and I came up with Sheldon 38Quote:
Originally Posted by MangoAve
Funny, this was a very hard one to ID, but a lot of the ground found 1794's are, since corrosion or dirt/wear always seems to hide the needed detail to properly attribute.
I looked at the Obverse and I handle 1794s like I do CT coppers for IDing, usually do better with the reverse side for positive final ID. All of the S30 series the LIBERTY was too far from the Bust, btw, I know of no known differences in the CAP for helping to attribute variety. Anyway, with the distance from the top of the bust to LIBERTY known and how the date was for spacing, that are the two big areas of concern, since there were a few possibilities, it was time to look at the Reverse side. BINGO, I saw the one thing that stood out. The berry to the left of the letter C in CENT was halfway up to the letter, which numerous varieties have, including the S-38, BUT the leaf point below that berry was different that the S-38. The berry is a bit to the left of the point. That was my main focus. I found a match using that single attribute and believe it or not, it appears it is the most common variety of 1794 Large Cents. A Sheldon 65. There are other details to look for and they do match, short right ribbon is one of them, of course the fraction, but that is a tad hard to see clearly.... Don
:perfect10: Whoo hoo, Thank God that's over :lol: Thanks Jyes for nailing that one. You know it would have been a lot easier if they only used one set of dies :cheesysmile: