Fugios Cleaned

Last year I had picked up two 1787 Fugio Cents during an afternoon hunt and put them away until I could get to clean them up a bit. I finally got to them today. Both had thick crusted-on verdigris on the obverse side, making it difficult to clean and remove. The reverse of the coins held up better, though one of Fugios does have a break at the top, apparently resulting from someone's attempt to make a hole.

Here are a few photos of the Fugios after the cleaning. Now I just need to identify the varieties. :interesting:

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...leaned_obv.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...leaned_rev.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...aned_a_obv.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...aned_b_rev.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...aned_c_obv.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...aned_d_rev.jpg

very sweet fugios :loveit: :smitten: :smitten: i remember those coins you found Angel , i think you did very well with the cleaning job considering what they looked like when you started. |:cheering: |:cheering:

did you want a little help i.d-ing the varieties ?? or did you want to try to do it on your own?? if your brave enough theres a pretty good link to i.d. fugios in the YE OLDE RELIC HUNTERS GUIDE .

Dan

Those are great little pieces of History. Congrats on a nice cleanup. I hope to find one of those coins soon to cross of my bucket list of finds. Hope they find a spot of honor in your collection as they deserve a nice home after 225 years. Happy Hunting!!

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Originally Posted by del link=topic=9809.msg109824#msg109824 date=1335439176

very sweet fugios :loveit: :smitten: :smitten: i remember those coins you found Angel , i think you did very well with the cleaning job considering what they looked like when you started. |:cheering: |:cheering:

did you want a little help i.d-ing the varieties ?? or did you want to try to do it on your own?? if your brave enough theres a pretty good link to i.d. fugios in the YE OLDE RELIC HUNTERS GUIDE .

Dan

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Thanks Dan. I do have over 100 photos of Fugio cents here I will be using to try to identify them, plus that link you provided will help too. But some assistance in identifying the variety would be great. :yes:

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Originally Posted by MassDirtFisher link=topic=9809.msg109827#msg109827 date=1335447759

Those are great little pieces of History. Congrats on a nice cleanup. I hope to find one of those coins soon to cross of my bucket list of finds. Hope they find a spot of honor in your collection as they deserve a nice home after 225 years. Happy Hunting!!

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Thanks Tim! thumbsup01

although this one here would normally be extremely easy to i.d. , the condition of the front makes it difficult but not impossible , but the reverse of the coin is pretty unique as well heres some tips to what to look at Angel . once you think you have the type down you can look at the one spot on the obverse to confirm it .

Dan

Great finds and tlc for sure . An excellent job of restoring them to a more dignified condition . |:cheering: :beerbuddy:

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Originally Posted by del link=topic=9809.msg109842#msg109842 date=1335465852

although this one here would normally be extremely easy to i.d. , the condition of the front makes it difficult but not impossible , but the reverse of the coin is pretty unique as well heres some tips to what to look at Angel . once you think you have the type down you can look at the one spot on the obverse to confirm it .

Dan

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Thanks Dan! I do have over 100 photos (front and back) of Fugio cent varieties. I should be able to run a comparison against those as well.

thumbsup01 They cleaned up very nice Angle! :yes:
With over a hundred pictures to compare too, you sure do have your work cut out for you :confused: lol
I'm just glad to see your starting to clean up, a couple of the thousands, of hidden gems you've unearthed over the years :yes: :drool: lol

They cleaned up real nice Angel. |:cheering: I only wish to find something that old someday, Very cool.

Thanks guys! :beerbuddy:


I think I may have identified one of the varieties. I'm not completely sure though. Anyway, below are better photos of the coin, as well as example photos of the variety, which are found at this website. The Coinfacts website too has additional information on the variety.

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2..._fugio_obv.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2..._fugio_rev.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...-Y.ex1.obv.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...-Y.ex1.rev.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...-Y.ex2.obv.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...-Y.ex2.rev.jpg

:perfect10:great job Angel , i concur with your identification on the 15-Y , that variety is usually a boldly struck coin with sharp features and is a relatively common one .i had one in the coinspill i found last year , remember?? that reverse is the only one with the eight pointed star on the label and the obverse die crack makes this coin stand out , if you look hard you can actually see the die break on the obverse that goes from the sundial out toward the rim (lower right side after the date and last cinquifoil). the next fugio won't be as easy to i.d. my friend :teasing: lol lol

Dan

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Originally Posted by del link=topic=9809.msg109897#msg109897 date=1335512233

:perfect10:great job Angel , i concur with your identification on the 15-Y , that variety is usually a boldly struck coin with sharp features and is a relatively common one .i had one in the coinspill i found last year , remember?? that reverse is the only one with the eight pointed star on the label and the obverse die crack makes this coin stand out , if you look hard you can actually see the die break on the obverse that goes from the sundial out toward the rim (lower right side after the date and last cinquifoil). the next fugio won't be as easy to i.d. my friend :teasing: lol lol

Dan

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Yeah, that second one is going to have me pulling my hair. lol The reverse should help, as it has enough details to go on, but the obverse will be a challenge. 8/

:shocked04: Unbelievable Angel. They really cleaned up beautifully from where they started. :smitten:
Awesome job with the restoration on two incredible pieces of history. :clapping:

:wow: Sweet!

Nice job, how did you get that green, smooth stuff off? :dontknow:

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Originally Posted by charlives link=topic=9809.msg110286#msg110286 date=1335815262

Nice job, how did you get that green, smooth stuff off? :dontknow:

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Thanks Drew. The cleaning was painstakingly slow since I was using a small brass brush to carefully pry off and remove the crusted-on verdigris. I did not use heated peroxide afterwards since it tends to darken the copper a bit, and it also removes the light green patina. I just rinsed off the loosened verdigris residue with water.

:perfect10: Wow Nice Coins ! It's rare to see so much detail from the Dug ones on the back where it says We Are One and States United or United States. You can even see th dots and Cinquefoils ( I think that's how it's spelled). Check out this GREAT Link On FUGIO CENTS.
http://coinauctionshelp.com/1787fugio_cents.html

I LOVE THIS WEBSITE.

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Originally Posted by angellionel link=topic=9809.msg109903#msg109903 date=1335526301

Yeah, that second one is going to have me pulling my hair. lol The reverse should help, as it has enough details to go on, but the obverse will be a challenge. 8/

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have you pulled enough of it out yet Angel :poke: :poke: lol lol give it another look and see if it closely resembles the Newman 16-N. my friend .

Dan

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Originally Posted by del link=topic=9809.msg112252#msg112252 date=1337631513

have you pulled enough of it out yet Angel :poke: :poke: lol lol give it another look and see if it closely resembles the Newman 16-N. my friend .

Dan

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Actually, I had forgotten about looking at the coin further. lol But it does look like it matches the Newman 16-N variety. I increased the size of the image I posted above 200% to compare. I also did a comparison with the images I have saved and it looks like a match there too, though the images I have are of the late die state variety, which began to show a die crack on the reverse at the 6:30 mark. :thinkingabout:

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_co...ent_n016_N.htm


http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...-N.ex2.obv.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2...-N.ex2.rev.jpg

:perfect10: Wow ! Nice coins. I wish My FUGIO looked that good. I just want to clarify something I have learned about these coins when I researched mine . The symbols on the back, the star and the other symbol which I found out is actually called a Cinquefoil ( POINTED FLOWER ) . The star is 8 pointed while the Cinquefoil is 5 pointed . Coinfacts.com is a good site , but i have one I like better for Colonial Coins which is http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/
If the link doesn't work like that then just search for the site name called The Coins of Colonial and Early America . The site has so much info. and the Variety pics are awesome. The articles about the Various coins are great reading and i have learned alot.
We should be so grateful for those of us living in New England with all the private and Obsolete coins still being found .
Alot of Buttons also have these cinquefoils on the back as well .
Congrats Again ! Sal