1600's era silver !!

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08-10-2013, 02:49 PM
del

1600's era silver !!

Today Drew an I hit a site he recommended (don't worry Dave no coppers for me )and within the first hour i had a nice knee buckle and from the looks of it it might have been silver plated.

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...psc2d47512.jpg

after that it slowed down some only nabbing a couple of buttons and a silver 47 roosie dime. :dontknow:

With 1 find today i scratched off a couple of things off my bucket list
which was to find a complete 1600's shoe buckle :happy:
and a complete solid silver shoe buckle :bananadance:

well today i did both with this one find <: :happydance01: happydance02 :peace:

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps0ad5e57b.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps497c5740.jpg

its a very small shoe buckle , they generally were a lot smaller in the 1600's but this one could very well be a child's

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps8d6b9ab0.jpg

even the cross pin is silver Dave :shocked03: and Drew and I were both shocked that the chape and tongue moved very freely right after it was dug which is amazing after more than 320 years in the ground

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps1b445444.jpg

heres the knee buckle (silver plated) and shoe buckle .

and the rest of the finds , the buttons were plain tombacs and a couple of smaller plain brass ones , part of a pewter spoon and a musket ball

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps68c72a4b.jpg

Dan
08-10-2013, 02:56 PM
Southern-Belle

Re: 1600's era silver !!

A fantastic find!
08-10-2013, 03:13 PM
OxShoeDrew

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That was the find of the day. :clapping: Do you know we found three knee buckles today? :shocked04:stretcher: No ticks, few sceeters.....was there a maker's mark on that buckle?

Imagine wearing solid silver buckles or buttons today. :daydream: Congrats on a super find! |:cheering:
08-10-2013, 03:23 PM
Thiltzy

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Glad to see you got out after all Dan and that silver shoe buckle is an amazing find :omg: :loveit: :smitten: The knee buckle isn't too shabby either. :poke: :clapping: Congrats on checking the 1600's shoe buckle off your bucket list I am very envious :envious: :cheering: :cheering: I will take that shoe buckle over any crusty old copper!

On a side note Dan, I finally got a chance to scout out an area that I was almost positive should have a cellar hole. After work I went to see if I could find it and my instincts were correct. It looks like a very old site and the best thing is that it is not on any of the maps. No dig holes or iron scraps leaning against trees or lying on top of rocks :happy: I did not bring in my gear because I went straight from work. I think I will save it for a special day and maybe keep it for myself :thinkingabout: Although Dave would probably blow up my car up if I did not invite him :eyebrow:
08-10-2013, 03:31 PM
Thiltzy

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I am waiting for Drew to post his finds....c'mon Drew? :sleepy:
08-10-2013, 03:34 PM
OxShoeDrew

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Originally Posted by Thiltzy link=topic=13957.msg147043#msg147043 date=1376166677

I am waiting for Drew to post his finds....c'mon Drew? :sleepy:

Maybe there is a computer glitch lol I posted on the way home, KIDDING! I cant even run the radio while driving...but post I did :grin:
08-10-2013, 03:34 PM
del

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Originally Posted by Southern-Belle link=topic=13957.msg147038#msg147038 date=1376164567

A fantastic find!

thanks Southern-Belle

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Originally Posted by OxShoeDrew link=topic=13957.msg147041#msg147041 date=1376165632

That was the find of the day. :clapping: Do you know we found three knee buckles today? :shocked04:stretcher: No ticks, few sceeters.....was there a maker's mark on that buckle?

Imagine wearing solid silver buckles or buttons today. :daydream: Congrats on a super find! |:cheering:

Drew , there is a questionable area that might have some initials but its pretty worn on that area of the buckle (underneath the frame ) . I'll have to study it close .once the foliage dies down it will open a lot more area to swing you better go back Drew. :yes:

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Originally Posted by Thiltzy link=topic=13957.msg147042#msg147042 date=1376166236

Glad to see you got out after all Dan and that silver shoe buckle is an amazing find :omg: :loveit: :smitten: The knee buckle isn't too shabby either. :poke: :clapping: Congrats on checking the 1600's shoe buckle off your bucket list I am very envious :envious: :cheering: :cheering: I will take that shoe buckle over any crusty old copper!

On a side note Dan, I finally got a chance to scout out an area that I was almost positive should have a cellar hole. After work I went to see if I could find it and my instincts were correct. It looks like a very old site and the best thing is that it is not on any of the maps. No dig holes or iron scraps leaning against trees or lying on top of rocks :happy: I did not bring in my gear because I went straight from work. I think I will save it for a special day and maybe keep it for myself :thinkingabout: Although Dave would probably blow up my car if I did not invite him :eyebrow:

thanks Todd , I hope the new area produces some fine keepers for you.
08-10-2013, 03:53 PM
Thiltzy

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Hey Dan, is the buckle solid silver? What about the pin, is that silver also? How much does it weigh? and Finally what tells you that it's 1600's era? I need to know what to look for when I trying to determine age. Thanks in advance
08-10-2013, 04:11 PM
del

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Originally Posted by Thiltzy link=topic=13957.msg147049#msg147049 date=1376168035

Hey Dan, is the buckle solid silver? What about the pin, is that silver also? How much does it weigh? and Finally what tells you that it's 1600's era? I need to know what to look for when I trying to determine age. Thanks in advance

Todd , everything is silver even the cross pin (which is crazy :crazy: ) . 1720's an older shoe buckles have only 1 prong on the chape and a single tine tongue. this is heavy for its size . They generally get smaller the older they go back as well.
08-10-2013, 04:45 PM
Jyes

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Agree on the 1690 -1720 time frame and possibly yours might be closer to 1720s due to having curvature in the frame. Still researching...........
08-10-2013, 04:51 PM
coinnut

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Wow Dan, congrats on the '47 Roosie, what a find lol What a gorgeous little buckle :shocked03: Nice hunt buddy. Can't understand why it would be all silver but it is :clapping:
08-10-2013, 05:19 PM
milco

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Amazing find, congrats! Most likely came off of the shoe of an affluent 17th Century citizen I would guess? Very cool, I hope you are able to learn more about that buckle's maker and history!
08-10-2013, 05:26 PM
HEAVYMETALNUT

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HOLY MOLY! :shocked03: WOW! GORGEOUS MAN! congrats on adding that beauty to your collection! |:cheering:
08-10-2013, 05:56 PM
del

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Originally Posted by Jyes link=topic=13957.msg147054#msg147054 date=1376171104

Agree on the 1690 -1720 time frame and possibly yours might be closer to 1720s due to having curvature in the frame. Still researching...........

you sir are correct |:confused:) |:confused:) , i may have been confused with all my excitement :cheering: :cheering: 1690's to 1720 would be the time frame . i have found shoe buckle frames like you mentioned but they were much larger as were some of the one pronged chapes this is one of the smallest ones i've found . again thanks for correcting me :embarrassed:
08-10-2013, 06:35 PM
del

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Originally Posted by coinnut link=topic=13957.msg147055#msg147055 date=1376171486

Wow Dan, congrats on the '47 Roosie, what a find lol What a gorgeous little buckle :shocked03: Nice hunt buddy. Can't understand why it would be all silver but it is :clapping:

thanks George i knew you'd appreciate the Roosie the most lol lol

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Originally Posted by milco link=topic=13957.msg147059#msg147059 date=1376173143

Amazing find, congrats! Most likely came off of the shoe of an affluent 17th Century citizen I would guess? Very cool, I hope you are able to learn more about that buckle's maker and history!

thanks Darren

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Originally Posted by HEAVYMETALNUT link=topic=13957.msg147060#msg147060 date=1376173573

HOLY MOLY! :shocked03: WOW! GORGEOUS MAN! congrats on adding that beauty to your collection! |:cheering:

i hope your talking about the buckle and not the Roosie lol lol

thanks :grin:
08-10-2013, 07:19 PM
SafariScott

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Great find Dan. That's a nice looking buckle!!!!
08-11-2013, 05:25 AM
fsa46

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:wow: Awesome find Dan. :perfect10: I would say you hit it out of the park and rounded the bases, on that little silver buckle . Nice to see you're getting out. :yes:
08-11-2013, 08:01 AM
Bell-Two

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Any shoe buckle is a great find...but a Silver One...wowser! :perfect10:
08-11-2013, 05:30 PM
Lodge Scent

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YOW ! Dan that little buckle is beyond awesome. :wow: |:cheering:
08-11-2013, 06:28 PM
del

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Originally Posted by SafariScott link=topic=13957.msg147069#msg147069 date=1376180394

Great find Dan. That's a nice looking buckle!!!!

thank you Scott

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Originally Posted by fsa46 link=topic=13957.msg147089#msg147089 date=1376216740

:wow: Awesome find Dan. :perfect10: I would say you hit it out of the park and rounded the bases, on that little silver buckle . Nice to see you're getting out. :yes:

Thanks Frank , it was great to finally get out again .

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Originally Posted by Bell-Two link=topic=13957.msg147093#msg147093 date=1376226111

Any shoe buckle is a great find...but a Silver One...wowser! :perfect10:

right you are Bell-Two , thanks |:cheering:

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Originally Posted by Lodge Scent link=topic=13957.msg147115#msg147115 date=1376260230

YOW ! Dan that little buckle is beyond awesome. :wow: |:cheering:

thanks Jeff you know how rare just silver plated ones are and whole silver ones can be extremely scarce but add to the fact its an early one at that .

after more than 12 years heres the only other 1690's to 1720 shoe buckles i have found (with the new addition pictured) as you can see they are much more bigger than this one . the one on the left is broken in half and the right is an iron one .

also i added a picture of the largest shoe buckle (just frame) and the smallest . just to show you how much bigger they progressed in size until about 1800.

finally just the silver plated and other solid silver ones i have recovered in those amount of years. as you can see they don't come around to often .

thanks for the interest all.

Dan
HH everyone
08-12-2013, 07:48 AM
RobW

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:omg:...what a find! Very cool :cool:...Congrats :clapping:
08-12-2013, 11:06 AM
z118

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Wow, that seems like a once in a lifetime kind of find right there! Congrats on such a cool item. The best part is that is looks like new... you can only imagine who the last person to touch that item was before you found it... just amazing!
08-14-2013, 12:15 AM
Epi-hunter

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:omg: Dan, that is an amazing Rosie!

8/ lol That is a beautiful buckle. :perfect10: someday I hope to see your entire collection.
08-14-2013, 02:42 AM
del

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Originally Posted by RobW link=topic=13957.msg147170#msg147170 date=1376311689

:omg:...what a find! Very cool :cool:...Congrats :clapping:

thank you Rob , makes ya just want to get out there and do some relic hunting huh ;)

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Originally Posted by z118 link=topic=13957.msg147185#msg147185 date=1376323611

Wow, that seems like a once in a lifetime kind of find right there! Congrats on such a cool item. The best part is that is looks like new... you can only imagine who the last person to touch that item was before you found it... just amazing!

Z it was surely someone who was very well off to spend so much on a non necessity , a type of colonial man-jewelry and a symbol of his social status in the community.thanks for the comments.

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Originally Posted by Epi-hunter link=topic=13957.msg147333#msg147333 date=1376457329

:omg: Dan, that is an amazing Rosie!

8/ lol That is a beautiful buckle. :perfect10: someday I hope to see your entire collection.

yes the Roosie was the last silver coin i wanted to see at a possible 300 year old homesite :hairpulling: lol lol

Angie , I was hoping you would make it out here to start your own collection :teasing:

thanks
08-14-2013, 05:39 AM
aloldstuff

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Dan, :congrats: on scratching some items off the bucket list. That silver buckle looks just fantastic. You must be stoked.

I'm sure that the buckle will be a great addition to your already great collection.
08-14-2013, 06:44 AM
RobW

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Originally Posted by del link=topic=13957.msg147340#msg147340 date=1376466158

thank you Rob , makes ya just want to get out there and do some relic hunting huh ;)

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

Just haven't been able to figure that aspect of the hobby out yet :dontknow:
08-15-2013, 02:15 AM
Cheap Thrills

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Wow , that picture of the 5 silver buckles together is stunning !!! |:confused:) Way to go Del ! :perfect10:
09-13-2013, 08:12 PM
CTTodd

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Really very nice Dan. I've only got half as many in about 15 years but they are my favs. I have a short video that shows me digging a silver buckle. YouTube cttodd1
09-28-2013, 09:16 AM
Willems

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Originally Posted by del link=topic=13957.msg147037#msg147037 date=1376164172

Today Drew an I hit a site he recommended (don't worry Dave no coppers for me )and within the first hour i had a nice knee buckle and from the looks of it it might have been silver plated.

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...psc2d47512.jpg

after that it slowed down some only nabbing a couple of buttons and a silver 47 roosie dime. :dontknow:

Congrats Del with your nice shoebuckle's.
That's a super find.
Whe find those here to and if i look at the list of buckle's here the are all from 1700.

With 1 find today i scratched off a couple of things off my bucket list
which was to find a complete 1600's shoe buckle :happy:
and a complete solid silver shoe buckle :bananadance:

well today i did both with this one find <: :happydance01: happydance02 :peace:

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps0ad5e57b.jpg

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps497c5740.jpg

its a very small shoe buckle , they generally were a lot smaller in the 1600's but this one could very well be a child's

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps8d6b9ab0.jpg

even the cross pin is silver Dave :shocked03: and Drew and I were both shocked that the chape and tongue moved very freely right after it was dug which is amazing after more than 320 years in the ground

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps1b445444.jpg

heres the knee buckle (silver plated) and shoe buckle .

and the rest of the finds , the buttons were plain tombacs and a couple of smaller plain brass ones , part of a pewter spoon and a musket ball

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps68c72a4b.jpg

Dan
09-28-2013, 09:20 AM
Willems

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Congrats Del with your nice shoebuckle's.
That's a super find.
Whe find those here to and if i look at the list of buckle's here the are all from 1700.

http://www.netmarshall.co.uk/bucklep...n-1720s-1790s/
09-28-2013, 09:26 AM
del

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Thanks Willems , i have those two links in the Ye Olde Relic Hunter's Resource Guide stickied at the top of the that page . I actually voted for your shoe buckle (as it was even older than mine) love those early pieces.
09-29-2013, 11:42 AM
pulltabsteve

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Dan, you are now crowned, THE SILVER BUCKLE KING !! And I think the 47 Rosie is cool too :yes:
10-08-2013, 11:51 AM
Willems

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Originally Posted by del link=topic=13957.msg150313#msg150313 date=1380378393

Thanks Willems , i have those two links in the Ye Olde Relic Hunter's Resource Guide stickied at the top of the that page . I actually voted for your shoe buckle (as it was even older than mine) love those early pieces.

Thanks Del thumbsup01
10-09-2013, 06:40 PM
Sal66

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:wow: Great Buckles Dan !! Can you imagine the wealth the owner must of had to own something like that ? Great going and good to hear that the Bugs are going away. This Summer was terrible .
10-09-2013, 08:46 PM
Ill Digger

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:wow: Cool find Dan!! :perfect10:
Congrats on scratching a item off of your wish list! :clapping:
It's amazing how the silver can withstand the elements for all those years! :yes:
I found an all silver pin once. Although it's not 200+ years old :dontknow: lol but I was surprised that the pin on the ... pin ... was silver too. :yes:
Cool stuff thumbsup01
Congrats Dan-o! :grin:
01-01-2016, 07:25 PM
Iron Patch

Definitely a rare one. I can only recall one early solid silver knee buckle being dug anywhere close to me. Was nice though, early 1700s with hallmarks!
01-02-2016, 07:03 PM
del

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Originally Posted by Iron Patch

Definitely a rare one. I can only recall one early solid silver knee buckle being dug anywhere close to me. Was nice though, early 1700s with hallmarks!

Thanks Patch , this was truly an unexpected bucketlister of a find .
01-03-2016, 06:00 AM
Restoring Your Finds

Absolutely gorgeous !!