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    1600's era silver !!

    Today Drew an I hit a site he recommended (don't worry Dave no coppers for me )and within the first hour i had a nice knee buckle and from the looks of it it might have been silver plated.



    after that it slowed down some only nabbing a couple of buttons and a silver 47 roosie dime.

    With 1 find today i scratched off a couple of things off my bucket list
    which was to find a complete 1600's shoe buckle
    and a complete solid silver shoe buckle

    well today i did both with this one find <: happydance02





    its a very small shoe buckle , they generally were a lot smaller in the 1600's but this one could very well be a child's



    even the cross pin is silver Dave and Drew and I were both shocked that the chape and tongue moved very freely right after it was dug which is amazing after more than 320 years in the ground



    heres the knee buckle (silver plated) and shoe buckle .

    and the rest of the finds , the buttons were plain tombacs and a couple of smaller plain brass ones , part of a pewter spoon and a musket ball



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    A fantastic find!

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    That was the find of the day. Do you know we found three knee buckles today? stretcher: No ticks, few sceeters.....was there a maker's mark on that buckle?

    Imagine wearing solid silver buckles or buttons today. Congrats on a super find! |
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    Glad to see you got out after all Dan and that silver shoe buckle is an amazing find The knee buckle isn't too shabby either. Congrats on checking the 1600's shoe buckle off your bucket list I am very envious I will take that shoe buckle over any crusty old copper!

    On a side note Dan, I finally got a chance to scout out an area that I was almost positive should have a cellar hole. After work I went to see if I could find it and my instincts were correct. It looks like a very old site and the best thing is that it is not on any of the maps. No dig holes or iron scraps leaning against trees or lying on top of rocks I did not bring in my gear because I went straight from work. I think I will save it for a special day and maybe keep it for myself Although Dave would probably blow up my car up if I did not invite him
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    I am waiting for Drew to post his finds....c'mon Drew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiltzy link=topic=13957.msg147043#msg147043 date=1376166677
    I am waiting for Drew to post his finds....c'mon Drew?
    Maybe there is a computer glitch lol I posted on the way home, KIDDING! I cant even run the radio while driving...but post I did
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern-Belle link=topic=13957.msg147038#msg147038 date=1376164567
    A fantastic find!
    thanks Southern-Belle

    Quote Originally Posted by OxShoeDrew link=topic=13957.msg147041#msg147041 date=1376165632
    That was the find of the day. Do you know we found three knee buckles today? stretcher: No ticks, few sceeters.....was there a maker's mark on that buckle?

    Imagine wearing solid silver buckles or buttons today. Congrats on a super find! |
    Drew , there is a questionable area that might have some initials but its pretty worn on that area of the buckle (underneath the frame ) . I'll have to study it close .once the foliage dies down it will open a lot more area to swing you better go back Drew.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thiltzy link=topic=13957.msg147042#msg147042 date=1376166236
    Glad to see you got out after all Dan and that silver shoe buckle is an amazing find The knee buckle isn't too shabby either. Congrats on checking the 1600's shoe buckle off your bucket list I am very envious I will take that shoe buckle over any crusty old copper!

    On a side note Dan, I finally got a chance to scout out an area that I was almost positive should have a cellar hole. After work I went to see if I could find it and my instincts were correct. It looks like a very old site and the best thing is that it is not on any of the maps. No dig holes or iron scraps leaning against trees or lying on top of rocks I did not bring in my gear because I went straight from work. I think I will save it for a special day and maybe keep it for myself Although Dave would probably blow up my car if I did not invite him
    thanks Todd , I hope the new area produces some fine keepers for you.
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    Hey Dan, is the buckle solid silver? What about the pin, is that silver also? How much does it weigh? and Finally what tells you that it's 1600's era? I need to know what to look for when I trying to determine age. Thanks in advance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiltzy link=topic=13957.msg147049#msg147049 date=1376168035
    Hey Dan, is the buckle solid silver? What about the pin, is that silver also? How much does it weigh? and Finally what tells you that it's 1600's era? I need to know what to look for when I trying to determine age. Thanks in advance
    Todd , everything is silver even the cross pin (which is crazy ) . 1720's an older shoe buckles have only 1 prong on the chape and a single tine tongue. this is heavy for its size . They generally get smaller the older they go back as well.
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    Agree on the 1690 -1720 time frame and possibly yours might be closer to 1720s due to having curvature in the frame. Still researching...........

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    Wow Dan, congrats on the '47 Roosie, what a find lol What a gorgeous little buckle Nice hunt buddy. Can't understand why it would be all silver but it is
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    Amazing find, congrats! Most likely came off of the shoe of an affluent 17th Century citizen I would guess? Very cool, I hope you are able to learn more about that buckle's maker and history!
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    HOLY MOLY! WOW! GORGEOUS MAN! congrats on adding that beauty to your collection! |
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyes link=topic=13957.msg147054#msg147054 date=1376171104
    Agree on the 1690 -1720 time frame and possibly yours might be closer to 1720s due to having curvature in the frame. Still researching...........
    you sir are correct |) |) , i may have been confused with all my excitement 1690's to 1720 would be the time frame . i have found shoe buckle frames like you mentioned but they were much larger as were some of the one pronged chapes this is one of the smallest ones i've found . again thanks for correcting me
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    Quote Originally Posted by coinnut link=topic=13957.msg147055#msg147055 date=1376171486
    Wow Dan, congrats on the '47 Roosie, what a find lol What a gorgeous little buckle Nice hunt buddy. Can't understand why it would be all silver but it is
    thanks George i knew you'd appreciate the Roosie the most lol lol

    Quote Originally Posted by milco link=topic=13957.msg147059#msg147059 date=1376173143
    Amazing find, congrats! Most likely came off of the shoe of an affluent 17th Century citizen I would guess? Very cool, I hope you are able to learn more about that buckle's maker and history!
    thanks Darren

    Quote Originally Posted by HEAVYMETALNUT link=topic=13957.msg147060#msg147060 date=1376173573
    HOLY MOLY! WOW! GORGEOUS MAN! congrats on adding that beauty to your collection! |
    i hope your talking about the buckle and not the Roosie lol lol

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    Great find Dan. That's a nice looking buckle!!!!
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    Awesome find Dan. I would say you hit it out of the park and rounded the bases, on that little silver buckle . Nice to see you're getting out.
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    Any shoe buckle is a great find...but a Silver One...wowser!
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    YOW ! Dan that little buckle is beyond awesome. |
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    Quote Originally Posted by SafariScott link=topic=13957.msg147069#msg147069 date=1376180394
    Great find Dan. That's a nice looking buckle!!!!
    thank you Scott


    Quote Originally Posted by fsa46 link=topic=13957.msg147089#msg147089 date=1376216740
    Awesome find Dan. I would say you hit it out of the park and rounded the bases, on that little silver buckle . Nice to see you're getting out.
    Thanks Frank , it was great to finally get out again .


    Quote Originally Posted by Bell-Two link=topic=13957.msg147093#msg147093 date=1376226111
    Any shoe buckle is a great find...but a Silver One...wowser!
    right you are Bell-Two , thanks |

    Quote Originally Posted by Lodge Scent link=topic=13957.msg147115#msg147115 date=1376260230
    YOW ! Dan that little buckle is beyond awesome. |
    thanks Jeff you know how rare just silver plated ones are and whole silver ones can be extremely scarce but add to the fact its an early one at that .

    after more than 12 years heres the only other 1690's to 1720 shoe buckles i have found (with the new addition pictured) as you can see they are much more bigger than this one . the one on the left is broken in half and the right is an iron one .

    also i added a picture of the largest shoe buckle (just frame) and the smallest . just to show you how much bigger they progressed in size until about 1800.

    finally just the silver plated and other solid silver ones i have recovered in those amount of years. as you can see they don't come around to often .

    thanks for the interest all.

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