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    Old - Old Copper, wheat and maybe a watch winder

    Got out this afternoon for a short 2 hour hunt. Decided to go to a spot which in the past has produced, LC's, seated, Barber, IH

    First keeper would be the 1941 wheat. A little while later I got what I think might be a watch winder.

    I really hate to say this BUT "on the way back to the car" I get this 7 -8 inch signal with a VDI bouncing between 78 and 83. Dig down and I pull the copper out of the hole. I think that there is a bust facing right but that would be all I could see. I fear that it might be another New England disc. Any help appreciated.

    Thanks for reading and HH
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    Haha. Trying to thow a curve ball here? I knew something was up when both the disc and the wheat are about the same size. Now I know what you mean by NE disc... it's toasty. I just cannot tell you the date. But from pic #3 that little tiny divit on the center and kinda looking like a lady in a dress almost made it look like it could be a CT. It looks to me like it says "1262" somewhere in the middle of the toasted back but that's just a figment. That must be the word "America". Lincoln was facing right. Good you are getting out.
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    It's bigger than the wheat and is very thin. Looking in the Red book it's the same size as the Hibernia farthing.
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    Al looks like you found a 1600's era French Liard
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    WOW. Dan thanks for the ID but are you sure. Now don't get me wrong I would love to break into the 1600's club.

    What gave the ID away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by del View Post
    Al looks like you found a 1600's era French Liard
    Good call, Dan! After doing a Google image search I'd say you are correct!

    You can clearly see the crown on the bust on the obverse of Al's coin, and part of the "ROY.FR.DE.ET.DE" lettering.
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    Now I'm really happy, can't begin to express my thanks for the ID. Always wanted to find a 1600's coin just never thought I would.

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    Al was this in your "field" you've been doing well in ??
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    Dan has a great eye! I found one this summer and still wouldn't have put it together unless Dan said it. Absolutely correct, you can see the crown. If I recall the crown makes it mid 1600s Magnificent find!
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    No....this was in another area that Rob and Tim and I have hit numerous times. Part of an old farm in Westfield.
    Actually only a couple blocks from my house, am planning on hitting that other field tomorrow.
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    Al , if your pulling coins this old , well there could be a pine or oak tree schilling there too.
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    Sorry it took so long to reply, I had to empty my drool bucket........
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    It's hard to make out what's supposed to be on the back as there were a few types of liard coins. From the front if the crown has the crosses or fleur-de-lis and words above the bust (and around the rim) then it's literally mid 1600s. Between 1655 and 1657.

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    Congrats on an oldie, WTG.


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    Congrats on a totally mind blowing find . I hope that spot gives you many more great finds .

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    Wow!! Now a 1600s coin is a feat!!!! What a find!
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    ....Very nice Al...thanks for sending me the text to rub it in. Some of us HAVE to work still!
    Great find and congrats!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobW View Post
    ....Very nice Al...thanks for sending me the text to rub it in. Some of us HAVE to work still!
    Great find and congrats!!!!!
    Thanks for congrats and of course I had to rub it in.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloldstuff View Post
    Sorry it took so long to reply, I had to empty my drool bucket........
    Al thats to funny but I think my drool bucket would have to be a big one after finding something like that a HUGE Congrats to you sir hope there is some more oldies there good luck
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