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    Question about CT Coppers

    Sitting in my recliner as the rain pours down outside I decided to take another look at my 2 good CT coppers.

    On the 1st one that I found m33-34.z-11 if I am holding the coin so that the obverse is facing me, then if I flip the coin away from me then the reverse is sitting the way she should be...but on the other one m10-e if I do the same flip then the lady is upside down.

    The pictures below show the two coins and the arrow shows how I flipped them over.

    Is this normal????
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    With colonial coins its not uncommon Al but its still considered an error . the second Connecticut coin pictured has a 180degree reverse die rotation. meaning the person who was putting the copper planchet between the two dies had the reverse one rotated 180 degrees off and then went ahead and stuck in the press. I have a few with rotated dies but i don't think i have one 180 degrees off like that .
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    Thanks Dan. I had known of rotated dies on more modern coins but was not sure of the old coppers.
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    Yeah......I knew something about you was off.
    Congrats on yet another CT copper

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobW View Post
    Yeah......I knew something about you was off.
    Congrats on yet another CT copper
    when you gonna get out of there and find some Mister ??
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    Curiosity question: Does anyone know who the bust is on the Conn Copper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief5709 View Post
    Curiosity question: Does anyone know who the bust is on the Conn Copper?
    Found this

    Connecticut coppers have the most complex minting history of all colonial issues. There were more that 355 die combinations, with at least 126 type varieties having 26 distinct bust styles made by at least six different mints. Yet, the basic design of the Connecticut Coppers never changed; all issues imitated the British halfpenny! The obverse depicted the bust of a man wearing a laurel wreath, the figure sometimes faced to the left (as George II) or to the right (as George III) and was either clad in mail armor or draped in a toga. The obverse legend was one of several forms of Latin abbreviations for the phrase "By the authority of Connecticut." The reverse depicted a seated personification of Liberty closely resembling the British Britannia with a legend consisting of an abbreviated form of "Independence and Liberty
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    It's common for the the 1787 reverse D and E pieces to be struck rotated 180 degrees. It's also common for them to be struck 5-10% off center. I have a 13-D rotated 180 degrees and a 9-D that's rotated about 20 degrees.
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