Nice finds Jim. I use all metal mode almost exclusively went I hunt now, and turn the disc. up and down depending on whether it's trashy or not. This is a well known technique and glad you're using it as It'll definitely pay off for you. It just comes down to whether you can tolerate all the iron chatter. I'm willing to do so as this method has really helped me around "hunted out" sites. Really love the shoe buckle frame. I've yet to find one up here in all my hours of searching!

John