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    French Liard From my 10x G Grandfathers Land

    Yesterday I got permission to metal detect on my 10x great grandfathers land which he bought in the 1640s. The land had stayed in the family for generations.

    Itís been an absolute dream of mine to possible find some relics my ancestors had dropped. I found some buttons, a shoe buckle frag, and some other odds and ends.

    I got an iffy signal on my Nox 800 but decided to dig it. I saw the size and how thin it was so I immediately started looking for Liard De France. Sure enough I was holding a French Liard (1655-1658).

    Absolutely amazing my 10x great grandfather could have dropped this coin!




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    That’s priceless!!!
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    the coin find alone would be a great find but to place some provenience on it with a family member 300+years ago is very awesome Owen .

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    What a great find and wonderful story behind it! That is a unique treasure to be passed down to your family for generations to come!

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    Amazing find! What I also find amazing is that you have family history dating back that far in the states, not to mention the continuity of having that bit of land for the entire time. Being that I really have no way to trace family history back to just before WWII in Germany as the Nazis destroyed as many records at they could find. (It's said they had distant connections to previous royal lines and the family deemed a threat to incoming power so had to be eliminated)
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    Nice! I would to find a Liard someday!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucknut View Post
    Thatís priceless!!!
    Thanks! Iím still in disbelief

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    Quote Originally Posted by del View Post
    the coin find alone would be a great find but to place some provenience on it with a family member 300+years ago is very awesome Owen .

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    Thanks Dan! Finding it on my ancestors land absolutely gives it a different feel. I still canít get over it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Two-Cent View Post
    What a great find and wonderful story behind it! That is a unique treasure to be passed down to your family for generations to come!

    Thank you! It will absolutely be passed down through the family. Hopefully each generation appreciates it along with the other artifacts I found there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digger_O'Dell View Post
    Amazing find! What I also find amazing is that you have family history dating back that far in the states, not to mention the continuity of having that bit of land for the entire time. Being that I really have no way to trace family history back to just before WWII in Germany as the Nazis destroyed as many records at they could find. (It's said they had distant connections to previous royal lines and the family deemed a threat to incoming power so had to be eliminated)
    Thanks! Iím very fortunate to have family ties going back that far and it works out great to have this hobby! But damn thatís too bad. I wouldnít give up though, Iím sure thereís info out there that can get you on the right track. Genealogy can be tough but itís addicting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lodge Scent View Post
    Nice! I would to find a Liard someday!
    Thanks! Theyíre out there, keep swinging!

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    Quote Originally Posted by owena1 View Post
    Thanks! I’m very fortunate to have family ties going back that far and it works out great to have this hobby! But damn that’s too bad. I wouldn’t give up though, I’m sure there’s info out there that can get you on the right track. Genealogy can be tough but it’s addicting
    I agree genealogy can be addictive, but it's also so very easy to get on the wrong track with one misspelled name or incorrect bit of information. I had done a search once several years ago and there were references to some minor royal dating back to the 12th century, and "possible" connections all the way back to the Germanic tribes, possibly some chieftain or leader of some sort. The web site gave some connections to references made by the Roman scholar Pliny the Elder from around 60 AD. Of course this ALL rides on some flimsy associations, educated guesses, and the assumption of a minor mis-spelling in a document from the late 1800s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digger_O'Dell View Post
    I agree genealogy can be addictive, but it's also so very easy to get on the wrong track with one misspelled name or incorrect bit of information. I had done a search once several years ago and there were references to some minor royal dating back to the 12th century, and "possible" connections all the way back to the Germanic tribes, possibly some chieftain or leader of some sort. The web site gave some connections to references made by the Roman scholar Pliny the Elder from around 60 AD. Of course this ALL rides on some flimsy associations, educated guesses, and the assumption of a minor mis-spelling in a document from the late 1800s.
    Absolutely, one wrong lead can throw everything off. Getting back that far is a whole new animal Iím sure. You really are going off assumption for a lot of it

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    Great find Owen, esp. here in the states! I had the privilege of vacationing in France with friends at their late medieval chateaus in March 2020, just before COVID exploded. I found several of these nice little coppers there - such cool finds. It's fantastic that you can give your specific coin some provenance with your family though. So neat!

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