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    Old silver

    Posted this first in coinshooting by mistake. Got a call from a buddy who got permission to hunt some private property. House was built in 1786 so hopes were high. Property was sold a few years ago for $7,650,000. Evidently a lot of the yard has been moved around and we didn't find much in the areas we were detecting, but I did come up with a nice old silver spoon. Appears to be early 1800's. Anyone good with hallmarks?

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    This topic was brought up last week about hallmarks. Key in silver spoon in the search box.

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    Excellent spoon find!! The drooped eagle mark, makes me think French, more than British or American, but have not found it on the website for a match. Sooo many Hallmarks!! Don

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    This topic was brought up last week about hallmarks. Key in silver spoon in the search box. Go to park hunt started by Giant 056. There`s a link you can go to.

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    Awesome looking silver spoon!
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    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...-hallmark.html Identical spoon found in Mass by a fellow I know, do not see the answer on this posting...

    Added: going by the one reply on Neil's post, this is a possibility: http://www.925-1000.com/ax_TifftWhiting.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyes View Post
    http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/to...-hallmark.html Identical spoon found in Mass by a fellow I know, do not see the answer on this posting...

    Added: going by the one reply on Neil's post, this is a possibility: http://www.925-1000.com/ax_TifftWhiting.html

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    Thanks Jyes. I had found this post with the link to the hallmark site, but it's not quite the same. Only similarity is the arm and hammer, which isn't exactly the same as mine. The hammer is much higher from the arm than on my piece. Also, there are no initials in the hallmark. Possibly from the same area before Tift & Whiting joined forces. Certainly think it's American. It is interesting that one was found by a fellow member here with the EXACT same hallmarks.
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    That's gotta be old for sure, great save!
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    I found the same exact one as your's a few years back, in Cape Cod MA. I really didn't spend much time researching it, but you sparked my interest a bit. I found a very similar eagle on another unidentified silver spoon pictured), which the possibility of Whitfield Cowles of East Granby CT was mentioned. This is a longshot, but may make sense for two reasons; the first being the proximity being halfway between our finds, the second being the area of East Granby is nicknamed "Spoonville". Further research is necessary!

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    That is an awesome spoon. I never have had much luck on finding hallmarks though good luck on your search.
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    Fantastic find and its not even bent.... . Whatever the hallmarks are that spoon is early. Nice price on the piece of property.
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    Don, that's beautiful! Congrats!
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    Don I wish I was better on my Silver hallmarks knowledge , its a "stand-out" piece in any display sir .
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    Here is the exact one I found a few years back on Cape Cod.
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    No doubt in my mind they were made at the same time. Not only same hallmarks, same EXACT style.
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    That is a beauty. Congrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by don in ny View Post
    No doubt in my mind they were made at the same time. Not only same hallmarks, same EXACT style.
    It was a common design, but same period for sure. I found the exact same design made by a Philadelphia silversmith named James Watts.

    If they had the same monogram it would be freaky!

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    Great recovery on the spoon. I've found a few, but never Silver and Never in that great of shape. Congrats
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil in West Jersey View Post
    It was a common design, but same period for sure. I found the exact same design made by a Philadelphia silversmith named James Watts.

    If they had the same monogram it would be freaky!
    What's different about this spoon than most that I've seen from the period is the handle end of the spoon. The design element is on the bottom of the handle where all the others I've see have it on the top. Your thoughts? I also got out my old copy of Marks of American Silversmiths and still couldn't find the exact hallmarks although I did find one with an arm & hammer.
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    While doing the research to no avail I do think we all need to call the marks by their proper name Makers Mark, not Hallmarks, I stand guilty as do most of the rest of us. ALL American made silver are marked not with Hallmarks, but Maker's Marks, Hallmarks are a British only thing. Don

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