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HEAVYMETALNUT
04-10-2011, 05:51 PM
saturdays hunt with Gary was about as bad a day as you can have cellar hole hunting :-\ 5 sites one button(benedict waterbury)backmark
had permission to do a large 1800's home.was exciting walking into this yard thumbsup01
left with my tail between my legs.tons of clad,16 wheaties and not one sliver of silver :confused: fill was brought in as most zincolns were 5 - 6 inches.
i stopped at a cellar hole that i been to before. a few targets here n there a key and my 1st counterfiet large cent.it's a braided hair with date chipped away.looked for it in the hole but nothing.its made of pewter.
Dan & G does this count as a copper? :confused:

HEAVYMETALNUT
04-10-2011, 05:52 PM
more pics

zrickkid
04-10-2011, 06:56 PM
Still looks like a good hunt in my book!

coinnut
04-10-2011, 07:03 PM
You were a digging fiend lol Hope that yard has some grass left. Hope it rains soon to keep it green too rofl Them hunts can be tough. All the years of moving dirt around can bury the coins deep. As for the copper, I think you already answered the does it count? question lol Counterfeits are a great historical account of cheating the system. It has been done ever since money was invented. :yes: I ususally don't see too many large cents being counterfeited, but obviously it does happen :thinkingabout: We always count counterfeits as coppers...although yours is pewter rofl

HEAVYMETALNUT
04-10-2011, 07:31 PM
You were a digging fiend lol Hope that yard has some grass left. Hope it rains soon to keep it green too rofl Them hunts can be tough. All the years of moving dirt around can bury the coins deep. As for the copper, I think you already answered the does it count? question lol Counterfeits are a great historical account of cheating the system. It has been done ever since money was invented. :yes: I ususally don't see too many large cents being counterfeited, but obviously it does happen :thinkingabout: We always count counterfeits as coppers...although yours is pewter rofl

nah ya can't even tell i was there.98 coins and one fake lc 99 coins lol.yeah i dug my butt off today!
i figured it counted so ,i took it upon myself to add it.i wish it was intact crying01 but thankful i have this much of it.you know how pewter holds up :eyebrow:

del
04-10-2011, 07:45 PM
:shocked04:stretcher: :shocked04: wow thats alot of targets Dave and alot of knee bends :yes: sorry the yard didn't pan out as you liked but you found some neat trinkets :cheering: :cheering: as for your pewter copper :confused: :thinkingabout: i didn't count my pewter /lead classic head counterfiet i found last year , why :eyebrow: because you guessed it .... lack of any real copper . don't worry big guy you'll find some real ones soon , of that i'm sure . :behave: :poke: lol lol

hey on a side note we might be thinking of a road trip soon , you interested:huh:

HEAVYMETALNUT
04-10-2011, 07:53 PM
:shocked04:stretcher: :shocked04: wow thats alot of targets Dave and alot of knee bends :yes: sorry the yard didn't pan out as you liked but you found some neat trinkets :cheering: :cheering: as for your pewter copper :confused: :thinkingabout: i didn't count my pewter /lead classic head counterfiet i found last year , why :eyebrow: because you guessed it .... lack of any real copper . don't worry big guy you'll find some real ones soon , of that i'm sure . :behave: :poke: lol lol

hey on a side note we might be thinking of a road trip soon , you interested:huh:

well G says ya always count em and you say nah? :dontknow: :confused: umm well...its already in the books as a copper :happydance01:
heck yeah i'm interested! :yes: thumbsup01

coinnut
04-10-2011, 07:59 PM
well G says ya always count em and you say nah?


Well, technically I said....



We always count counterfeits as coppers...although yours is pewter rofl


rofl rofl Group hunt sounds Ok to me too.

HEAVYMETALNUT
04-10-2011, 08:59 PM
Well, technically I said....

rofl rofl Group hunt sounds Ok to me too.

and this is rarer than a copper so..... should it count as 2? :confused: :dontknow: :thinkingabout: :cheering:

coinnut
04-10-2011, 09:30 PM
and this is rarer than a copper counterfiet so..... should it count as 2? :confused: :dontknow: :thinkingabout: :cheering:


I think it may count as a pewter button :thinkingabout: rofl

odave
04-10-2011, 11:33 PM
Bummer on the counterfiet crying01
You still had a lot of finds looks like a good hunt to Me thumbsup01
Beautiful site thumbsup01 thumbsup01

Evan/tn
04-11-2011, 06:35 AM
Yep i would say it counts too :yes:
That's one sweet button too thumbsup01

HEAVYMETALNUT
04-11-2011, 07:07 AM
I think it may count as a pewter button :thinkingabout: rofl

but,it's not a button 8/ it's a large cent technically :dontknow: :hairpulling:

coinnut
04-11-2011, 09:53 PM
but,it's not a button 8/ it's a large cent technically :dontknow: :hairpulling:


No Dave :bop: it looks like it may have a shank on it rofl rofl Yep, is a sorta, almost, buttony, kinda looking thingy :popcorn: You can count it as .00235 parts of a copper ;)

del
04-12-2011, 02:40 AM
ah passing counterfiets off and getting caught was punishable by hanging Dave , George isn't as forgiving as that lol rofl lol.....

so becareful :eyebrow:

i'd give it to ya if it was a partial copper/brass or partial copper/pewter but just lead or just pewter isn't even a good fake or was meant for a token or even a poker chip.

The Official George's Rule book
- Rule 1-a subsection 3 states that coins and tokens permissible in contest must be of atleast farthing in size and contain some copper or other precious metal in composition . :interesting:

Civil War Nut
04-12-2011, 06:32 AM
Nice hunt Heavy. I like the cross CA.-3 button. Do you know where it comes from ?

HEAVYMETALNUT
04-12-2011, 08:31 AM
Nice hunt Heavy. I like the cross CA.-3 button. Do you know where it comes from ?

not sure where it comes from but it has a threaded post on back so,its a WWi-II lapel pin

HEAVYMETALNUT
04-12-2011, 08:32 AM
ah passing counterfiets off and getting caught was punishable by hanging Dave , George isn't as forgiving as that lol rofl lol.....

so becareful :eyebrow:

i'd give it to ya if it was a partial copper/brass or partial copper/pewter but just lead or just pewter isn't even a good fake or was meant for a token or even a poker chip.

The Official George's Rule book
- Rule 1-a subsection 3 states that coins and tokens permissible in contest must be of atleast farthing in size and contain some copper or other precious metal in composition . :interesting:

ok,im gonna copper plate this puppy then.looking on e-bay for copper plating dips as i type rofl

coinnut
04-12-2011, 02:55 PM
ok,im gonna copper plate this puppy then.looking on e-bay for copper plating dips as i type rofl


:angry: :angry: :eyebrow: Start setting up the gallows Dan thumbsup01

Toadman
04-12-2011, 03:45 PM
I have 2.. and i definately counted both !!! :beerbuddy: :beerbuddy: :beerbuddy: one is a K.G

HEAVYMETALNUT
04-12-2011, 06:00 PM
:angry: :angry: :eyebrow: Start setting up the gallows Dan thumbsup01

gulps! :white:usaflag:: holds my neck \:hammer: you guys are ruthless! :blackeye:
i think we need to call a emergency sit down behind closed doors meeting and revise Georges so called and i quote :groovy: rule book :groovy:
ya sure he even has a rule book? he might have lost that like everything else he does rofl <}
just pickin on ya G ;)

jkress
04-12-2011, 08:30 PM
Look at all that clad. :shocked04:
Wow... that yard looks soooooo inviting. Too bad about the fill.
The counterfeit copper is kind of cool. I didn't realize people did that back in the day. :embarrassed:
Love the button and the keys.
Congrats HMN.

Civil War Nut
04-12-2011, 10:06 PM
not sure where it comes from but it has a threaded post on back so,its a WWi-II lapel pin
O. K. Thanks Heavy. I think Killer found one around here , wasnt for sure about the date .

RobW
04-13-2011, 10:30 AM
If my vote matters at all...

I think it should count.....

As George said, it was made to cheat the system lol

coinnut
04-14-2011, 07:39 PM
As George said, it was made to cheat the system lol


I think Dave cheats the system enough Rob lol It has to have copper in it to be a copper 8/ That is why most King Georges count (Because they are debased) And I am revising the rule book now. To be harder on Dave rofl Now where is that hood for the gallows :thinkingabout:

HEAVYMETALNUT
04-15-2011, 07:13 AM
I think Dave cheats the system enough Rob lol It has to have copper in it to be a copper 8/ That is why most King Georges count (Because they are debased) And I am revising the rule book now. To be harder on Dave rofl Now where is that hood for the gallows :thinkingabout:

ok i'd rather have my neck so,i adjusted my count total.ya meanie :white:usaflag::