1600's era silver !!

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Today Drew an I hit a site he recommended (don't worry Dave no coppers for me )and within the first hour i had a nice knee buckle and from the looks of it it might have been silver plated.



after that it slowed down some only nabbing a couple of buttons and a silver 47 roosie dime. :dontknow:

With 1 find today i scratched off a couple of things off my bucket list
which was to find a complete 1600's shoe buckle :happy:
and a complete solid silver shoe buckle :bananadance:

well today i did both with this one find <: :happydance01: happydance02 :peace:





its a very small shoe buckle , they generally were a lot smaller in the 1600's but this one could very well be a child's



even the cross pin is silver Dave :shocked03: and Drew and I were both shocked that the chape and tongue moved very freely right after it was dug which is amazing after more than 320 years in the ground



heres the knee buckle (silver plated) and shoe buckle .

and the rest of the finds , the buttons were plain tombacs and a couple of smaller plain brass ones , part of a pewter spoon and a musket ball



Dan
 
That was the find of the day. :clapping: Do you know we found three knee buckles today? :shocked04:stretcher: No ticks, few sceeters.....was there a maker's mark on that buckle?

Imagine wearing solid silver buckles or buttons today. :daydream: Congrats on a super find! |:cheering:
 
Glad to see you got out after all Dan and that silver shoe buckle is an amazing find :omg: :loveit: :smitten: The knee buckle isn't too shabby either. :poke: :clapping: Congrats on checking the 1600's shoe buckle off your bucket list I am very envious :envious: :cheering: :cheering: I will take that shoe buckle over any crusty old copper!

On a side note Dan, I finally got a chance to scout out an area that I was almost positive should have a cellar hole. After work I went to see if I could find it and my instincts were correct. It looks like a very old site and the best thing is that it is not on any of the maps. No dig holes or iron scraps leaning against trees or lying on top of rocks :happy: I did not bring in my gear because I went straight from work. I think I will save it for a special day and maybe keep it for myself :thinkingabout: Although Dave would probably blow up my car up if I did not invite him :eyebrow:
 
Thiltzy link=topic=13957.msg147043#msg147043 date=1376166677 said:
I am waiting for Drew to post his finds....c'mon Drew? :sleepy:
Maybe there is a computer glitch lol I posted on the way home, KIDDING! I cant even run the radio while driving...but post I did :grin:
 
Southern-Belle link=topic=13957.msg147038#msg147038 date=1376164567 said:
A fantastic find!

thanks Southern-Belle

OxShoeDrew link=topic=13957.msg147041#msg147041 date=1376165632 said:
That was the find of the day. :clapping: Do you know we found three knee buckles today? :shocked04:stretcher: No ticks, few sceeters.....was there a maker's mark on that buckle?

Imagine wearing solid silver buckles or buttons today. :daydream: Congrats on a super find! |:cheering:

Drew , there is a questionable area that might have some initials but its pretty worn on that area of the buckle (underneath the frame ) . I'll have to study it close .once the foliage dies down it will open a lot more area to swing you better go back Drew. :yes:

Thiltzy link=topic=13957.msg147042#msg147042 date=1376166236 said:
Glad to see you got out after all Dan and that silver shoe buckle is an amazing find :omg: :loveit: :smitten: The knee buckle isn't too shabby either. :poke: :clapping: Congrats on checking the 1600's shoe buckle off your bucket list I am very envious :envious: :cheering: :cheering: I will take that shoe buckle over any crusty old copper!

On a side note Dan, I finally got a chance to scout out an area that I was almost positive should have a cellar hole. After work I went to see if I could find it and my instincts were correct. It looks like a very old site and the best thing is that it is not on any of the maps. No dig holes or iron scraps leaning against trees or lying on top of rocks :happy: I did not bring in my gear because I went straight from work. I think I will save it for a special day and maybe keep it for myself :thinkingabout: Although Dave would probably blow up my car if I did not invite him :eyebrow:

thanks Todd , I hope the new area produces some fine keepers for you.
 
Hey Dan, is the buckle solid silver? What about the pin, is that silver also? How much does it weigh? and Finally what tells you that it's 1600's era? I need to know what to look for when I trying to determine age. Thanks in advance
 
Thiltzy link=topic=13957.msg147049#msg147049 date=1376168035 said:
Hey Dan, is the buckle solid silver? What about the pin, is that silver also? How much does it weigh? and Finally what tells you that it's 1600's era? I need to know what to look for when I trying to determine age. Thanks in advance

Todd , everything is silver even the cross pin (which is crazy :crazy: ) . 1720's an older shoe buckles have only 1 prong on the chape and a single tine tongue. this is heavy for its size . They generally get smaller the older they go back as well.
 

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Agree on the 1690 -1720 time frame and possibly yours might be closer to 1720s due to having curvature in the frame. Still researching...........
 
Wow Dan, congrats on the '47 Roosie, what a find lol What a gorgeous little buckle :shocked03: Nice hunt buddy. Can't understand why it would be all silver but it is :clapping:
 
Amazing find, congrats! Most likely came off of the shoe of an affluent 17th Century citizen I would guess? Very cool, I hope you are able to learn more about that buckle's maker and history!
 
Jyes link=topic=13957.msg147054#msg147054 date=1376171104 said:
Agree on the 1690 -1720 time frame and possibly yours might be closer to 1720s due to having curvature in the frame. Still researching...........

you sir are correct |:confused:) |:confused:) , i may have been confused with all my excitement :cheering: :cheering: 1690's to 1720 would be the time frame . i have found shoe buckle frames like you mentioned but they were much larger as were some of the one pronged chapes this is one of the smallest ones i've found . again thanks for correcting me :embarrassed:
 
coinnut link=topic=13957.msg147055#msg147055 date=1376171486 said:
Wow Dan, congrats on the '47 Roosie, what a find lol What a gorgeous little buckle :shocked03: Nice hunt buddy. Can't understand why it would be all silver but it is :clapping:

thanks George i knew you'd appreciate the Roosie the most lol lol

milco link=topic=13957.msg147059#msg147059 date=1376173143 said:
Amazing find, congrats! Most likely came off of the shoe of an affluent 17th Century citizen I would guess? Very cool, I hope you are able to learn more about that buckle's maker and history!

thanks Darren

HEAVYMETALNUT link=topic=13957.msg147060#msg147060 date=1376173573 said:
HOLY MOLY! :shocked03: WOW! GORGEOUS MAN! congrats on adding that beauty to your collection! |:cheering:

i hope your talking about the buckle and not the Roosie lol lol

thanks :grin:
 
:wow: Awesome find Dan. :perfect10: I would say you hit it out of the park and rounded the bases, on that little silver buckle . Nice to see you're getting out. :yes:
 
SafariScott link=topic=13957.msg147069#msg147069 date=1376180394 said:
Great find Dan. That's a nice looking buckle!!!!

thank you Scott


fsa46 link=topic=13957.msg147089#msg147089 date=1376216740 said:
:wow: Awesome find Dan. :perfect10: I would say you hit it out of the park and rounded the bases, on that little silver buckle . Nice to see you're getting out. :yes:

Thanks Frank , it was great to finally get out again .


Bell-Two link=topic=13957.msg147093#msg147093 date=1376226111 said:
Any shoe buckle is a great find...but a Silver One...wowser! :perfect10:

right you are Bell-Two , thanks |:cheering:

Lodge Scent link=topic=13957.msg147115#msg147115 date=1376260230 said:
YOW ! Dan that little buckle is beyond awesome. :wow: |:cheering:

thanks Jeff you know how rare just silver plated ones are and whole silver ones can be extremely scarce but add to the fact its an early one at that .

after more than 12 years heres the only other 1690's to 1720 shoe buckles i have found (with the new addition pictured) as you can see they are much more bigger than this one . the one on the left is broken in half and the right is an iron one .

also i added a picture of the largest shoe buckle (just frame) and the smallest . just to show you how much bigger they progressed in size until about 1800.

finally just the silver plated and other solid silver ones i have recovered in those amount of years. as you can see they don't come around to often .

thanks for the interest all.

Dan
HH everyone
 

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