1700's house hunt = = Shoulder Belt Plate

[aloldstuff]

I went out today with the intention on getting my 50th silver. I decided to go out of town to a house that Rob and I had hit before. This house is from the 1700's and the homeowners have it up for sale. I DID NOT get my 50th silver but I got 4 more wheats and something very interesting. It is brass, measures roughly 2 3/4 x 1 3/4.
When I first got it out of the hole I was looking at the back and the shape of it and said NO way a military buckle. I turned it over and saw some script writing. I cleaned off the back and saw the 3 hooks (should be 4, 1 is missing). As I was looking at it trying to figure out what it was I thought not a brooch. It doesn't look like any horse rosette I've seen,so I am at a loss.

It's a cool looking item and if anybody has any idea please chime in.

Thanks for reading

 

[chief5709]

Re: 1700's house hunt

Cool find, not sure what it is but looks like a buckle of some sort

 

[OxShoeDrew]

Re: 1700's house hunt

Do you know what it says?

 

[aloldstuff]

Re: 1700's house hunt

Do you know what it says?

Drew, for abut 1/2 hour I looked at this under a magnifying glass and I can't make out what it says :dontknow:

 

[del]

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hey Al , can you give us a picture of it next to half dollar or similar for a size reference , and you might get a better deatail if your light source is casting across the face . your letters will have more shadow , the name could be very important.

Dan

 

[aloldstuff]

Re: 1700's house hunt

hey Al , can you give us a picture of it next to half dollar or similar for a size reference , and you might get a better deatail if your light source is casting across the face . your letters will have more shadow , the name could be very important.

Dan

Will do......tried the lighting trick and no help at all. Tried to do a pencil rubbing and that also didn't work.

 

[del]

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Al , thats an early shoulder belt plate 1790- 1810 . its either to militia or regular military and probably an officer's . their pretty rare and if you could get the person's name off it , it could make it even more valueable. it is a great find :loveit: :loveit: :smitten:

 

[aloldstuff]

Re: 1700's house hunt

Al , thats an early shoulder belt plate 1790- 1810 . its either to militia or regular military and probably an officer's . their pretty rare and if you could get the person's name off it , it could make it even more valueable. it is a great find :loveit: :loveit: :smitten:

Dan, I am in shock. First the hat plate and now this. I am not a relic hunter but I will definately take these items.

Once again thank you for the ID

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

wow what a find! mg: that's freakin awesome dude!

 

[buck57]

Super find there Al. :congrats:

 

[milco]

That is an awesome find! I would think if you study the script and compare with military rosters/records you may be able to make a match. You could also review census records for the location where it was found and see if you could make a match that way, assuming the person that lived there owned it. I am pretty good at reading old script (I transcribe a lot of old documents), but it's tough to make it out in the pictures.

 

[aloldstuff]

That is an awesome find! I would think if you study the script and compare with military rosters/records you may be able to make a match. You could also review census records for the location where it was found and see if you could make a match that way, assuming the person that lived there owned it. I am pretty good at reading old script (I transcribe a lot of old documents), but it's tough to make it out in the pictures.

I can't make out the script in person so trying from a picture would seem impossible, but thanks for trying. I have looked up the historical society in the town that I found this in and they are open Saturdays so I will go there and see if they have any records.

 

[del]

That is an awesome find! I would think if you study the script and compare with military rosters/records you may be able to make a match. You could also review census records for the location where it was found and see if you could make a match that way, assuming the person that lived there owned it. I am pretty good at reading old script (I transcribe a lot of old documents), but it's tough to make it out in the pictures.

sometimes inverting the colors can show some detail , maybe this will help Milco . then again maybe it won't :dontknow:

 

[Sal66]

|:cheering: Definitely unusual buckle. I just think there's not enough there to make out the Name which is what I think it is. It must be the person's name. I also think there's not enough proof that it's Military either. I found a Buckle a long time ago and it had no markings at all. I think if it was Military, it would have a stamp on it somewhere with maybe a US . :interesting:
Either way, really nice hunt. CONGRAT'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[aloldstuff]

I am going to meet with the towns historical society this Sat and they will help me get an identifcation. I brought it to work and I know believe that the first name is John and the last name starts with an H

 

[RobW]

PSSTTT>........If you can remember the property address, you may be able to search the registry of deeds back to the time period for a name...I may know a real estate attorney familiar with the area that can help... lol

I swear, I leave you alone and you make some great finds....Congrats :clapping:

 

[del]

I swear, I leave you alone and you make some great finds....Congrats :clapping:

its official Al ....

your to leave Rob at home from now on lol rofl :hysterical:

 

[aloldstuff]

its official Al ....

your to leave Rob at home from now on lol rofl :hysterical:

You and I are starting to think very much alike rofl

 

[Thiltzy]

:wow: Unbelievable find there! Now that would be something special if you can connect a name to it. good luck...let us know what you make of it. erfect10:

 

[Tony Two-Cent]

What an incredible find, Al! WOW! It just looks really old! I love the script, even though it is tough to read. To me it almost looks like two initials and then the last name, perhaps J.H. Haurt____ or something like that.

Congrats on the terrific piece of history! :congrats: