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Dave you have a before and after of that 1808 coin ?

I agree that less is usually more when it comes to coin cleaning , meaning start out with the least intrusive method and go from there as opposed to starting out with the harshest . seeing the coin's...

I'm always open to look at alternative cleaning tools , I wouldn't mine trying a set on some of the crappier indians and coppers i have just to see what they can do . I occasionally use a fiber glass...