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    Short Hunt Fugio

    By the time I drove/hiked out to the site I only hunted an hour when hunters showed up. As I already had a copper I didn't mind leaving. I knew the cellar hole was supposed to be about a half mile into the woods...but I didn't read the topo maps very well as I was surprised to see how large the valley/gulch was that I had to descend, then climb back up. It was worth it though.
    Some of the walls were mostly buried and a lack of any type of metal led me to believe it was a very old site. The quarter was at five inches and was very green in color...it broke my heart
    My second fugio this year EDIT: On further cleaning I see the fugio was first struck with the obverse on the reverse. I can see the sunshine between the chain links.
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    WTG Drew on the finds! You saved that Fugio just in time before it was toasted to a crisp.

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    Great finds, thanks for sharing. That Fugio made the trip, for sure. Im envious of the types of finds possible in the East!
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    P.S. The overstrike is just a big plus!!!
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    awesome hunt! very cool fugio restrike too!
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    nice job on the fugio, that's an awesome coin
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    WTG Drew, an exceptional find and its a restrike. Seeing that you were in the woods I hope you had you blaze orange on..
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    Nice score on that Fugio Drew That coin has some sharp features
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    That Fugio Copper is truly a thing of beauty, Drew! Wow, what an incredible find!

    And made even more incredible by the double strike! An amazing piece!
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    Very crisp details on the most of the fugio...very sweet!
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    Well that is the way to end up the year! Wow what a lovely coin CONGRATS
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    Fantastic find on the Fugio! Great detail remaining on most of the coin to boot! Congrats.

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    Congrats on the Fugio and the Washington quarter. I'm with Al- hope you had the blaze orange on in the woods.

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    Thank you everyone! I was looking back at my old threads to cut/paste for Tony's "Two Best Finds" thread and came across the thread I started this past summer when I also found a Fugio. It had the same title as this thread! "Short Hunt, Fugio" Not very creative I guess
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    Wow , first "obverse-reverse" struck Fugio i've seen Drew were you feeling confused or conflicted about something when you found it ?? its a great piece Drew and i'm very interested in seeing if the two obverses are the same or different . huge congrats my friend

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    I think if I want a Fugio the only way is to hunt with you. lol. Congrats on a double strike. I had seen this thread last night offline but didnt realize it was a double strike.

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    Great coin! Very nice Fugio to come out of the ground, but it is NOT an overstrike. It was struck from clashed dies. This is a common occurance on many Fugio varieties. This happens when the dies are struck together without a blank between them. An overstrike is when the coin was stuck over another coin. Many early American half cents were struck over cut down Talbot, Allum and Lee cents. See http://www.coinfacts.com/half_cents/...verton_101.htm Machin's Mills was known to strike New Jerseys over Connecticut coppers as they could get the CT's for 16 to the shilling and the NJ's were worth 12 to the shilling. See lower picture at http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_co.../maris_56n.htm Look at the lower picture in the link to see the clashed dies. http://coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/...ent_n001_B.htm I also have one in my own collection with lightly clashed dies visible on the obverse. Look close and you can see some of the reverse rings.
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    Overstrike - When a coin is struck over another coin. Can be the same type of coin or something completely different.

    Double strike - When the coin is struck twice. The second strike can be a rotated strike, off center or even a flip over second strike (much rarer). Triple and quadruple strikes are also known. http://coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/...ent_n008_X.htm

    Brockage - When a coin gets stuck in the die and a second coin is struck while it is still there. The result is the second coin has an incuse design from the first coin. This would result in a 2 headed or two tailed coin with one impression being incuse. The first coin, which ended up being used as a die for the second coin will have a mushy appearance on one side and very sharp on the other. Here's a counterfeit British halfpence brockage from my own collection.

    Hope I didn't bore you all with my rambling.

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    Thank you, thank you!!! That is great information
    Your Fugio is spectacular! Thanks again Don!
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    great information Don your knowledge on the old coinage is hugely appreciated here, thanks for setting us straight
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    Always glad to help. By the way Drew, as far as I'm concerned that Fugio was virtually uncirculated when it was lost. The detail on the high points is extremely sharp with no evidence of wear. When I have some time I'll try and attribute what variety it is. Bigger pictures would help.
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