Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: Indian Head observation

  1. #1

    Indian Head observation

    Has anyone else noticed that Indian Head cents seem to have the widest range of id's when trash and/or depth is factored in?

    In the last couple of months, I have observed that IH's will sometimes ID all across the board when it is not the only thing under the coil. Nickels, silver and wheat cents seem to stick somewhat closer to their respective ID's when trash and/or depth enter the equation.

    The ferrous and conductivity readings really get stretched for this coin... at least for my machine.

    I have been lucky enough to find 76 so far this year and many of them had me thinking pre-dig... Not sure what this is, but it is a coin down there.

    I am very curious if anyone else has noticed this?

  2. #2
    Administrator del's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    13,015

    Re: Indian Head observation

    i agree Joe they can vary a great deal in different conditions (soil moisture ,mineralization,trash) plus the early ones are a different composition all together to add to the guessing game . lol lol
    "Honesty is an expensive gift ,
    so don't expect it from cheap people"

    XP Deus II , DFX ,TDI sl -

    Click here to view my finds album


  3. #3

    Re: Indian Head observation

    they come in anywhere between 50 and 72 on my M6.
    M6 / DX-1 / 6x10 DD & M6/DX-1/ stock coil
    Pontiac IL.

  4. #4

    Re: Indian Head observation

    I've noticed this as well, I've had some bronze ones in the nickle range. I was thinking maybe its more of how corroded they are, as some look really nice condition and others are all ate up.
    MXT300 D2,950,6x10,4x6

  5. #5

    Re: Indian Head observation

    Quote Originally Posted by JTGOLD link=topic=7049.msg81991#msg81991 date=1315748359
    they come in anywhere between 50 and 72 on my M6.
    Ditto !

    Joe, You're doing great with a 76 count on IH this year.
    MXT Pro, Garrett Pro Pointer, 5.3 & and 950 coils, Sun Ray Pro Gold HP, Excalibur , 1000 coil, 2, Whites Dual Field PIs, Sovereign GT

    Oldest Silver: 17?2 Half Reale

    Oldest Coins: 1723 Halfpenny ,1729- ? KG 2rd Half Penny, 1786 Connecticut Copper, 1787 Fugio.

    11@ 1807,8 Reale Counterfeit Cache

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Southern NH
    Posts
    765

    Re: Indian Head observation

    Quote Originally Posted by jkress link=topic=7049.msg81977#msg81977 date=1315714730

    I have been lucky enough to find 76 so far this year ...
    Personally, I'm blown away by that number. I have yet to find an IH but as I mentioned in another post, judging by your comments, I wonder if I would recognize the signal

    I sure would hate to think that I'm leaving something that good in the ground.

    In any case, congrats on the number... you're doing something right.

    Minelab E-trac; CTX 3030

  7. #7

    Re: Indian Head observation

    Thanks a bunch for your input here everybody. thumbsup01

    Quote Originally Posted by fsa46 link=topic=7049.msg82073#msg82073 date=1315821877
    Ditto !
    Joe, You're doing great with a 76 count on IH this year.
    Thank you fsa46. Things are starting to click for me this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by bob_e99 link=topic=7049.msg82127#msg82127 date=1315852073
    Personally, I'm blown away by that number. I have yet to find an IH but as I mentioned in another post, judging by your comments, I wonder if I would recognize the signal
    I sure would hate to think that I'm leaving something that good in the ground.
    Thank you bob.
    I have noticed from my experience this year that IH's will vary plus or minus 1 to 4 points (either way but mostly lower) away from where they should hit on the Conductive scale... BUT, they certainly do slide all the way across the board on the Ferrous scale depending on pull tabs, iron, depth and even surface clad in close proximity.

    It's a learning process as we go. That's why I am trying to tap into the collective knowledge of the members here.

    Quote Originally Posted by del link=topic=7049.msg81978#msg81978 date=1315717421
    plus the early ones are a different composition all together to add to the guessing game . lol lol
    8/ I guess that's why I haven't found a fatty yet. lol Sooner or later.

    Quote Originally Posted by wingmaster link=topic=7049.msg82071#msg82071 date=1315806569
    I've had some bronze ones in the nickle range.
    ... Del had mentioned the same thing to me at one time. Now that I am really trying for that first solid gold ring for the year, maybe I'll pick one up as a surprise. Thanks for the info. thumbsup01

  8. #8

    Re: Indian Head observation

    I have been running a modified deep silver program and use tone ID with mixed mode and instead of rejecting targets I assign them a 0 tone. Anyway I have been getting wheats and indians at +91 - +95 with a thin red line beside them when being noted on screen .Most have been in the 7-10 inch range. After digging quiet a few I have found it be rewarding and not junk. This does not hold true every time but has at least a 50 % chance. With this program also the high pitch peep can also be very brief and needs to be watched as well as listened to very close. Other times a nice clean high pitch is there. In clean ground it can be cranked up and I have pulled silver at 14 inches plus. Happy Hunting Yazoo

  9. #9

    Re: Indian Head observation

    I got 13 Indians out of a Virgin area. It's by the Duck Pond. Most read in the pulltap range and signal all over the places. After my first one, I just dug all deep signals. That's how them. Also I many wheats pennies: two 1909 (no D) and my only silver in that area is 1914 barber dime. Most are in great conditions. Here's my last Indian out of that area
    Attached Images Attached Images   

  10. #10

    Re: Indian Head observation

    Very nice looking IH anotherpulltap!
    It is in beautiful shape. On my machine, the rectangular pulltabs can come very close to IH readings.
    The duck pond sounds like a wonderful place to spend some time detecting.

  11. #11
    Elite Member milco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Milwaukee WI
    Posts
    2,951

    Re: Indian Head observation

    I am no coin expert but I bet the mix of copper, zinc and tin in those days was not always the same in the manufacturing process. Not to mention differing soil conditions as others have said.
    Minelab Equinox 600 & Whites Coinmaster, Garrett Propointer, Lesche Digger
    Oldest silver: 1853 Half-dime & 1876S Seated Quarter / Oldest coin: 1849 US Large Cent / 1854 Upper Canada One Penny Bank Token

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •