i want to thank everyone here for accepting me and my other refugee freinds, i do fear that this mass exodus from the other forum will make some of you regulars on this forum feel that we are a bit too much at one time,making it feel that we are here to change things,the reason i say this is because one of our new members describe some of us as scoicable deviates, a term that describes me quite well and . only a couple of others , I have 90 posts here and behving myself so far. i know that my fellow refugees will be a positive assett to this forum. I am still waiting for a couple more to show aka BOWSER/ DIRTCHIRP/ DIGGER O' DELL. JIM