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    Quote Originally Posted by OxShoeDrew View Post
    ...and I'll be watching you...that's how this works.
    I don't think I have to earn an honest opinion, I hope you'll just give it. Now I do have to earn a positive opinion and that is my goal
    My honest opinion is that this site did no need another moderator unless it is going to allow issues that effect the hobby to be discussed. What this site needs is more categories other than the " show and tell " type. I've seen people come to other sites with a thread showing how they door knocked with 3 people. they posted a picture of the rookie with a shovel. No one said that it didn't look good on the hobby with 3 people door knocking till they get a yes and digging people' s yards with knee pads on and carrying shovels.

    When I see someone come on a forum and say they got run out of the park I think a person should ask how they were detecting. Unfortunately it gets into a "I have my rights " issue and people are reluctant to ask the questions that may help keep parks open.

    Forums often get to be where they protect each other by eventually disallowing things from other forums being brought to them although they are part of the detecting community. I'll see if you are part of the protection group and if you use the term " drama " to limit discussion on the tougher issues that require moderating. There is no shortage of people showing heir finds. There is a shortage of people willing to encourage discussion on the issues that are detrimental to the hobby.

    I hope you can earn a positive opinion too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemper View Post
    I hope you can earn a positive opinion too.
    Thanks Kemper!....and thanks all! I agree Jeff...more shoes and knobs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemper View Post
    My honest opinion is that this site did no need another moderator unless it is going to allow issues that effect the hobby to be discussed. What this site needs is more categories other than the " show and tell " type. I've seen people come to other sites with a thread showing how they door knocked with 3 people. they posted a picture of the rookie with a shovel. No one said that it didn't look good on the hobby with 3 people door knocking till they get a yes and digging people' s yards with knee pads on and carrying shovels.

    When I see someone come on a forum and say they got run out of the park I think a person should ask how they were detecting. Unfortunately it gets into a "I have my rights " issue and people are reluctant to ask the questions that may help keep parks open.

    Forums often get to be where they protect each other by eventually disallowing things from other forums being brought to them although they are part of the detecting community. I'll see if you are part of the protection group and if you use the term " drama " to limit discussion on the tougher issues that require moderating. There is no shortage of people showing heir finds. There is a shortage of people willing to encourage discussion on the issues that are detrimental to the hobby.

    I hope you can earn a positive opinion too.
    Kemper , this forum is for the sharing of ideas , tips , experiences , finds and just about anything else that is "related" to the hobby is up for debate .Posts will remain up for debates , discussions and even machine comparisons will be allowed here and so will members as long as their behavior and posts are respectful to others and the post has something relevant to add to the thread topic. Again we encourage a hearty conversation but we won't tolerate machine or manufacture or member bashing here , If you want to bring up thought provoking (hobby related) discussions your welcome to as long as they are appropriate with the forum rules and don't offend anyone in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by del View Post
    Kemper , this forum is for the sharing of ideas , tips , experiences , finds and just about anything else that is "related" to the hobby is up for debate .Posts will remain up for debates , discussions and even machine comparisons will be allowed here and so will members as long as their behavior and posts are respectful to others and the post has something relevant to add to the thread topic. Again we encourage a hearty conversation but we won't tolerate machine or manufacture or member bashing here , If you want to bring up thought provoking (hobby related) discussions your welcome to as long as they are appropriate with the forum rules and don't offend anyone in any way.

    Dan

    "...don't offend anyone in any way. " I don't think that is possible in reality when discussing metal detecting issues. If someone detects in a park and gets told to leave,when someone on a forum tells them that they should not detect using a shovel or in a group or at the wrong time of day, they can get offended. If a person asks for permission when permission is not necessary and they get told no, they can get offended if someone on a forum tells them they should have just detected low key.

    I only touched lightly on some of the many things that people will get offended by. If a forum tries to put people's feelings over the issues that effect the hobby that forum will do more harm than good to the hobby. If you are overly worried about offending " anyone in any way " then the most important issues will not be discussed. Calling a site a "Forum " can be different than actually encouraging and wanting to have a real forum. Usually things get labeled as "Drama" by those that are as fake as the site they are in charge of. I am a member here so I'll see if you mean what you said about "member bashing " not being aloud. Not that I agree that it should be off limits as "bashing" is hard to define.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemper View Post
    My honest opinion is that this site did no need another moderator unless it is going to allow issues that effect the hobby to be discussed.
    The decision to add or delete staff belongs to the owners and other staff; member opinions do not play a role in that decision. Nor is it appropriate on this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kemper View Post
    Not that I agree that it should be off limits as "bashing" is hard to define.
    Go ahead and post as you wish, as long as it's within the forum rules and respectful to other members. If you want to discuss "tough" issues, that's fine - just follow the community rules. I guarantee you that moderation will define "bashing" if the need arises. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemper View Post
    "...don't offend anyone in any way. " I don't think that is possible in reality when discussing metal detecting issues.
    Yes it can be a challenge Kemper , especially when your not faced to faced when conversing with that individual but I have lots of faith in that you will at least give it an honest try. You did come here to contribute in a positive way , and not just to ruffle feathers and see how long you'd last on this website ?? I think you could add interesting dialogue an some humor Kemper but its really up to you if you want to remain here isn't it .

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