1859,o conterfeit??

[wild willy]

hi guys willy here!! i went to a coin shop a couple weeks ago and asked the guy how much he would give me. he looked it over and came back and said it was a fake. ive had this coin for years . it was not dug i bought it off a guy for 15 dollars. it looks like its real and feels it too. so i guess i have to weigh it and see what my detecter rings up at. it wouldnt be made a fake because of the year wich is pretty common. willy

 

[Salty Dog]

Looks real to me Willy :thinkingabout:,I would have some one else check it out,he didn't offer to buy it,did he ,cool looking coin/fake :dontknow: ,Dave

 

[giant056]

I'd have someone else look at it cause it looks real on my screen :thinkingabout:

 

[rsarge1]

yeah what they said take to a reputable coin dealler and have them check it nice looking though

 

[psychposse]

According to the Red Book it is real.

Liberty Seated Half Dollar - Variety 1 with no motto above eagle

Variety 1 ended in 1853 but was then resumed from 1856 to 1866

As worn as your coin is it would probably be a G4 ($30.00)

There were 2,834,000 1859O coins produced

 

[Nitro 54]

So what was supposed to be wrong with it, making it a fake ?? Even the O looks like it is raised and not stamped.

 

[greg]

What did the guy say was fake about it.

 

[coinnut]

Hey willy, Here a short story about some counterfeit coins that are produced at many different times for different reasons. Not all counterfeits are of the 1877 Indian, '09 S VDB, etc... It's easier to get 30-40 bucks for a common coin and not get caught. Not saying yours is not real, but generally a person who has been collecting or dealing in coins for many years remembers all the tell tail signs that a fake coin has. So it may be that person recognized a part of that coin that was fake and new it instantly. Even though this site does not list the &quot:daydream: mintmark, it still may be talking about yours.

http://books.google.com/books?id=xpcvAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA3-PA50&lpg=RA3-PA50&dq=1859+counterfeit+half+dollar&source=bl&ots=g_8FqI_zBo&sig=8SR69AgcIzBCcCUel5HJhFycvgc&hl=en&ei=1js3TejBOcT1gAemzc20Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CCYQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=1859%20counterfeit%20half%20dollar&f=false

 

[russellt]

it looks real to the untrained eye which is what im equipped with.. silver halves come in at a solid 88 vdi on the V3i. it would be interesting if you could air test the fake one and another silver half. im not convinced its fake.. if it is , they did a great job faking it

 

[Full Metal Digger]

In my mind there is a difference between a modern fake and a counterfeit coin from the period. As far as modern fakes go, probably not much reason to fake this coin. If it is a counterfeit coin created during the period then it might have more value as a counterfeit. When I look at the pictures, the flat areas around the letters and images just don't have that struck look to me. But that is just my opinion and I am not any kind of expert.

 

[Judy]

I agree with the others, I'd definitely take it in to a coin professional...find out if it is really a fake or is it a counterfeit from the period??

 

[wild willy]

i would say fake was a poor choice of wording in my part. :bop: that would be conterfeit!. thanx george ill check that out. also i found a book that i bought on conterfeits at a yard sale. its from the 50s. thats a find in its self. willy

 

[Judy]

Hey a counterfeit coin can be worth tons more than the original coin!!! I think ANY counterfeit old coin is a score big time!!!!!

I have a beauty counterfeit coin that is one of my favs! Half Penny Token!!!

 

[wild willy]

thats cool judy!! the odd thing is he just said something doesnt look right about it. he didnt get into it and didnt offer to buy. he also turned down a 1909s saying the same thing. except this time on the s itself didnt look right. i guess i can start another post with that. :yes: willy

 

[giant056]

I wouldn't be going back to that guy Willy :shocked01:

 

[del]

it just has a drab dull gray look to it but it does look real to me Willy , hey out of curiousity what was the name of the counterfiet book you found and does it list any colonial coins in it.

 

[Judy]

Yeah Larry's right - forget the schlep thumbsup01

 

[MrJeep]

A while back I found this interesting story about the Chinese counterfeiting U.S. coins. Apparently it's big business. If you go to ebay and type in “Replica seated half” or any other old coin, you’ll find just about any old coin you’re looking for “counterfeit” and cheep. Check out the factory here. http://coins.about.com/od/worldcoins/ig/Chinese-Counterfeiting-Ring/

 

[Nitro 54]

Interesting Mr. Jeep