Sheik Yerbooty: now that's GREAT advice and I only WISH I could follow it. However, the range my wife wants is a double convection oven GE in white and there just aren't ANY around for sale in a used condition. BELIEVE ME, I'd rather not spend $1800 on a new one, but that's the one she wants and IF you knew my wife, that's the ONE we WILL be BUYING:shocked04

Considering all the muscle cars and other toys she has tolerated me buying and selling over the 41 years we've been married, a nice new expensive range is the least I can do (we just celebrated our 41st anniversary on 6/11/12:shocked04

I'll get that E-Trac but it will most likely be a few months from now unless I sell some of my other toys to pay for it and I really don't want or need to do that. My new Sea Hunter MarkII and new GTI-1500 will keep me busy and suffice for now AND I am going to upgrade my barely used/like new Explorer XS with a new Pro or SEF coil and try to learn how to use that detector as well. Got LOTS to do to keep busy when I retire on 7/13 - look out beaches, here I come:shocked04