Well, I went over and read what was said. Sounds like a little crawfishing to me, but it was handled improperly in the beginning and that still sticks in my crawl. They had some goal in mind to make it more business oriented it appears to me and obviously didn't care about what forum members thought. So now they do? I don't trust them and I don't believe it will go back to the way it once was. Even if they put it back exactly the way it was there is still more benefit to the American Detectorist Forum. You can talk about other detectors and products here without getting your knuckles cracked and you can sell items here. I am not kissing and making up.