Rosa Americana Copper, interesting brass relic, and more!

RIdirtdigger

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image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgThe past week has been a busy one for me. Lots of assignments due and this week isn't gonna be any better as I have my first final exam on Thursday which means the remaining days are devoted to studying for the upcoming exams. I've still managed to get out a few times though and I am glad I did. On Monday after class I met up with Jarrod to hit the fields he got permission to again. Total bust. We were digging cans a foot deep and foil over 5 inches deep. I managed a horse buckle and an ox shoe. I don't know what happened to those fields. Maybe they were bulldozed and filled in. Oh well. I think the next time I got out to detect was Friday afternoon after my final classes of the semester for exams. I went to a spot not expecting much and managed to pull out a gilted button, a nasty crushed dandy button, and a part to a brass thing. Saturday afternoon I snuck out to my local site cause I wanted to simply swing. Got a button, and then got a signal that sounded like a can but of course I dug it. I was surprised to pull out a big heavy piece of brass. After some cleaning, I found it says something like "....Maker ..ar The State House Hartford" but the letters are such that you need a mirror to read them. It looks very old and the letters aren't raised like a printing plate would be so I do not know what it is. Sunday was an all day hunt for me (although I never intended it to be lol). I met up with Jarrod and we headed up to northern RI to hit a few sites. I expected them to be pounded and they were. It started out good as we pulled out 3 buttons within the first 5 minutes then found essentially nothing the rest of the time. One of my buttons is a really meaty tombac button with a full shank. It rang up like a copper which is really odd. Anyway Jarrod had to leave around noon so I met up with Sam in another town to hit a few cellars. First site looked promising. It was in The middle of the woods and we didn't see any signs of anyone being there recently. It must have been hit hard long ago or they simply didn't have a lot of money as I got nothing and Sam managed a dandy button. We moved on to another cellar hole that was on the side of the trail but not on any maps. We quickly realized it was gonna be bad as it looks like the landscape was altered or bulldozed. We only were there 10 minutes. We moved on to the last site. Sam got a button near the cellar hole and then I got a signal bouncing between a mid and high tone and was suprised to pull out a copper. Not just any copper though, it's a good copper. It's my very first Rosa Americana! A bucket list find for me and I'm very happy to have it. Sam was getting anxious to find a copper too so he continued detecting while I sat down and took a break and drank some fluids cause I was getting a light headache. Eventually it went away and it was getting dark so we sorta started to make are way back. We realized quickly we were going the wrong way and we turned around and then I hear Sam say he has a copper signal. His copper turned out to be a 1798 draped bust! I was happy cause the last hunt I went with him I got that draped bust and he didn't really find anything. Once again I'm walking out (this time the right way) and I got a sweet signal and Yell to him that I got a copper target. He swings over the signal with his AT pro and he says "yeah that's a copper". It sure was! An 1818 matron head. It's strange cause I think that's my 4th 1818 matron head large cent this year. Anyway that was basically it, 3 coppers from that site and only 3 buttons! Strange site but I'll gladly take it. Very happy about the rosa Americana. Happy hunting everyone!
 
I have never heard of a Rosa Americana before, but now I read up on them it's a pretty interesting story. Quite rare and very valuable in good condition-still worth a lot even in AG condition. I think yours has a chance to maybe clean up well. The LC sure is in great shape too. Huge congrats!

The place I am pretty sure is for printing where the background is solid while the letters are left without being inked.
 
Nice hit on the Rosa! If it is just the Tudor rose on the reverse without the crown, and that is a one pence denomination, then it should be dated 1722. Interesting brass thing too. Good looking 1818! All around great hunt!
 
Nice finds. My 1818 would look like that if I hadn't kept it in a thin plastic bag all day near another coin with a chance for the patina to flake off. oh well.

Did you notice the writing on the brass piece is backwards? Judging by the last pic being upside down, you didn't flip the brass piece picture. A square plate would have to be used for some sort of printing. It does say for a house in Hartford (CT).
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Nice finds. My 1818 would look like that if I hadn't kept it in a thin plastic bag all day near another coin with a chance for the patina to flake off. oh well.

Did you notice the writing on the brass piece is backwards? Judging by the last pic being upside down, you didn't flip the brass piece picture. A square plate would have to be used for some sort of printing. It does say for a house in Hartford (CT).
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it says " state house hartford" And oh i didn't know you could flip it on the computer. Thanks
 
Nicely done Jim...I love the old writing on that mystery piece....I hope you get an answer. I've yet to find a rosa, congrats!
 
WTG on the Rosa! That print plate is really cool. Keep us posted on what it says. Put paper on it & use a crayon to do a rubbing.
 

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