Ceramic Bottle & Possible Cannonball

The Rebel

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Hey Guys.

Was out yesterday & nabbed these 2 items. The bottle was on the top of a filled in cellar hole that someone has used as a personal trash pit. Was cracked apart but with the help of crazy glue it's back in one piece. I seem to recall that these are beer bottles.

As far as the possible cannon ball, it was about 8-10" down in the hole with this hook & pc metal. It's 8" around & 2.2lbs. If not for a cannon perhaps a for swivel gun?

This year so far has been a complete bust in the LC dept., but I'm still in the race, just got to get to better sites.

HH,
Roger
 

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Guessing the 8" is the circumference. Maybe measure the diameter. A lot of cannon ball sizes list by the diameter of the shot and the bore diameter of the cannon itself. I can already tell you this was not a CW cannonball. I am sure they did exist up here esp when CT was famous for the powder used during the war, despite no real battles up this way. There was no listing for a 2.2Lb charge under the Ordnance Manual shot tables. A 2.2 lb sounds about right for a RW ball, but I am not certain on this. At least I added some insight.
 
Thanks for your input! Perhaps I'll never really know but Scrappy over on TN said: "8" is approximately 2.5" bore, and at 2.2 lbs sounds legit. Likely British. Those can date to the 17th and 18th centuries"

Great find.

MangoAve said:
Guessing the 8" is the circumference. Maybe measure the diameter. A lot of cannon ball sizes list by the diameter of the shot and the bore diameter of the cannon itself. I can already tell you this was not a CW cannonball. I am sure they did exist up here esp when CT was famous for the powder used during the war, despite no real battles up this way. There was no listing for a 2.2Lb charge under the Ordnance Manual shot tables. A 2.2 lb sounds about right for a RW ball, but I am not certain on this. At least I added some insight.
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definitely an early small bore cannon shot Roger :cheering:, congrats on it and the stoneware bottle .

Dan
 
In short it is a light weight gun that was used to move with & support the infantry. http://www.americanrevolution.org/artillery.php

From wickipedia.
The Galloper gun is an artillery piece used circa 1740 in British colonies (later the United States). It has 1½, 2, 3, 4 and rare 6 pound shell variants. The gun and carriage weighs around 600 pounds. The gun was designed to be pulled by one horse between the shafts and to keep up with fast moving troops, perhaps even cavalry.

Gallopers were among the first attempts to give some degree of mobility to guns but the logistics of gun crew movement and ammunition transportation meant that the time to fire from a different location was not significantly reduced.

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del said:
Do tell what Galloper gun is Roger

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The Rebel said:
In short it is a light weight gun that was used to move with & support the infantry.

The Galloper gun is an artillery piece used circa 1740 in British colonies (later the United States). It has 1½, 2, 3, 4 and rare 6 pound shell variants. The gun and carriage weighs around 600 pounds. The gun was designed to be pulled by one horse between the shafts and to keep up with fast moving troops, perhaps even cavalry.
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Nice... Guess there was a 2lb variant with this type of gun that works. I def know by the Ordinance manual shot table there was some tolerances with sizing and weight. For the CW ones, it only listed the mean weight and allowable shot diameter range for the grape vs the smooth bore. for the smooth bore, the 3 Lb-er was 3.05 Lb. ect....
 
Nice finds Rebel! Two items high on my "want" list. I've always wanted to find a ceramic ale bottle with the yellowish top and a cannonball is at the top of my relic list.
 
Thanks. I ran this past TheCannoballGuy over on TN. He say's it's not round enough to be a cannonball as it is out of round. It was a 50/50 shot any how (pun in tended).
 
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